--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> > >
> > > We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental and
> > > physical trouble from being on MD.  Common maladies evidently on 
> > > the MD program. Mental problems and bad health. Energetic entity
> > > possession too in the experiences.
> > 
> > I do wonder about this. What types of mental problems? Can you be  
> > more specific? I know from my own experience, I went to visit THP 
> > at the end of the 80's in the Catskills. Along with me was my wife 
> > and a friend is also extremely psychic. They were both shocked and 
> > appalled by the energetic depletion they saw on these guys. Now 
> > they had come along with us expecting to see these advanced yogis, 
> > instead they said they looked like they had been repeatedly and 
> > continuously vampirized; sickly.
> 
> I have to say that this has always been my subjective
> assessment of anyone who has spent a long time "round-
> ing" in a TM context as well. Self discovery and enlight-
> enment are, as I understand them, about becoming *more*
> capable, *more* able to handle the world. Some of the
> guys I knew who spent a long time on such reclusive 
> courses can barely find their mouths with a spoon.
> 
> > > They do not have a way of talking about it within MD for fear 
> > > of ejection/rejection so some MD can be in pretty bad shape, 
> > > but are told the only way to get enlightened is to be on the 
> > > program in MD. There is a lot of peer pressure there between 
> > > the 'devotion' of being accepted there and when your days are 
> > > split mostly between meditating and raising money.
> > 
> > Wow.
> 
> This sadly goes along with what I've heard from an
> old TM friend who has friends who are currently on
> MD. Without naming names, she tells of these women
> leaving the course and coming to spend time with her
> and her husband periodically so that they can break 
> down and cry for three weeks solid, in private, 
> before going back to the course and having to pretend
> to be blissful all the time.
> 
> It strikes me that such "breakdown breaks" are no
> substitute for the professional care these women need,
> or for an environment in which they don't have to 
> hide what they really feel, and thus one in which such 
> problems wouldn't come up as much.
>

The question REALLY is: why do they continue on MD if they obviously are not 
happy with 
it? Isn't that just mood-making at its finest?






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