On Nov 5, 2006, at 2:59 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> I missed all of the dressing-in-saris-and-identically-
> white-suits thang. After my time. For that matter, I
> missed the entire MD and THP thang, too. And Chopra,
> much less Rajas. I beat feet in the '78-79 ballpark.

You must have also missed the "Sidha dresses" phase--made the saris 
look positively sexy.

>
>>> But the one thing that remained constant in my
>>> experience was that if there was an "attention
>>> hierarchy" to be climbed, some women were driven
>>> to climb it, even if doing so made them miserable
>>> on a day-to-day basis, and cut them off from
>>> cordial company with the other women.
>>
>> Yep, there's those types in all groups, the only thing that
>> changes is the criterion.
>
> Exactly.
>
>> In MD I would guess whoever's got the most dough gets
>> the most attention.
>
> I would expect pretty much the same thing. However,
> given human nature, I would imagine that four or five
> of them really share the "big money maker" crown, so
> I would expect there to be some *other* criterion that
> these four or five would use to define the absolute
> pecking order. And I would imagine that it isn't pretty.
>
>>> Have you ever been stuck in a relationship that,
>>> for all intents and purposes, was over, deceased,
>>> a dead parrot? And have you ever, in such a
>>> situation, stayed in the relationship because
>>> you hoped that it could regain the magic it once
>>> held for you?
>>
>> I don't know if it was for that reason or simple apathy--
>
> Entropy. It is, after all, the other strong force
> in the universe.
>
>> maybe a combination.
>>
>>> That, in my opinion, is why women stay in a very
>>> visible position that requires them to be models
>>> of blissninnydom, when they're feeling not the
>>> least blissy. Same thing for the men who persist
>>> in paths that make them less than happy. Most of
>>> them, in my opinion, are just pushing the rela-
>>> tionship past its time. But one never realizes
>>> that one is doing that until one does, whether
>>> it's a spiritual relationship or an amatory one.
>>>
>>> People do weird shit. There's really no figuring
>>> it out sometimes...
>>
>> That's for sure.  And paying large sums, to the tune of
>> thousands a year, to be essentially unhappy, is about as
>> weird as you can get. Freud would have a field day with
>> those two groups.
>
> Yes he would. But I have some compassion because I've
> been there, done that, and worn out the T-shirt. Several
> times. I stayed too long in most of my amatory affairs,
> and I stayed too long in most of my spiritual affairs.
> I hung in there long past the day when I realized it
> was over, sometimes years past the day when I realized
> it was over, often to the detriment of my spiritual
> and mental health. But hey!, we all do stupid shit.
> It's one of those perks you get for being born human.
>



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