--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vaj wrote: > > > > On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > >> --- Vaj wrote: > >>> > >>> if the elements are balanced, you will > >>> experience less issues with imbalances > >>> arising from your meditation > >>> practice: any meditation practice. > >> > >> Understood. It makes sense. That's why I do asanas > >> before my morning meditation; to skip them is to have > >> a crappy meditation. > >> > >> Maybe the absence of asanas and pranayam accounts > >> for the high drop-out rate among TMers. > >> > >> The other side of this issue is, such a policy as a > >> prerequisite to instruction would keep people from > >> learnng. It might be practical in a culture that values > >> meditation very highly. But that's not the culture I live in. > > > > > > Well consider SSRS and how he evolved what was TM. A prerequisite for > > his meditation method is his pranayama technique. Millions more have > > learned this than TM did in 50 years. I think once the reasons are > > explained and if it is made a simple part of the meditation method, it > > would not be an obstacle to people wanting to learn the method. SSRS's > > great success in this area is a good example. It's also worth > > mentioning that in traditional meditation instruction, pranayama comes > > before meditation and learning how to sit properly comes first. Once > > people understand why these are important, then it makes sense. And > > it's helpful for people to learn some basics of proper breathing, some > > basic breath education. This could even ideally be taught to children > > in a simple, non-sectarian manner. And it should be free. > The lay person technique my tradition teaches has the person learn to > sit properly first and also do pranayam. There is a degree of > flexibility in the teaching however and we are instructed to use our > judgment. For instance someone who has already learned some "yoga" and > already can sit in a pose and has done pranayam will get their mantra > immediately. > > We don't want people to have bad experiences from their meditation so > great care is taken. Doing TM checking of hundreds of people there were > some I felt should have been told to stop meditating and perhaps just do > asanas as they were becoming psychotic from the practice. I'm sure > other teachers noted the same thing. >
Huh. In fact, asanas/pranayama IS the recommendation for extreme unstressing, from what I've heard, and are you saying that you never heard the teacher's instruction to instruct meditators to reduce their meditation time? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
