Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three things I heard

[Vaj]

On Nov 5, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: If you accept that bija mantras of goddesses bring the "boon" of the deity, you should receive the benefit corresponding to that deity, tempered on your own karmic limitations. And since it is a bija mantra, it should also awaken kundalini. In some people that will be easy and expansive, in some it will have some side effects due to purification. Mantras of a peaceful goddess should also assist in favoring peaceful, calm, transcendent experience, shouldn't it? I don't think my doctor disputes these boons. He seems to be saying, there's a price to pay for them. Here's a question for those of you versed in such things: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a vig on each transaction? I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you mean. The  TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO misinformation. The TM  mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, not take it away.  But then again, there is the bija mantra, the seed mantra, and the  dharani, or full chain of mantra which includes the bija. Some have  argued since the full dharani is not given, this creates imbalance. A  tantric might also argue that before you use such a mantra, you have  to "prepare the field" by a process called bhuta-shuddhi or  purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa without it can  exacerbate imbalances. The mantras are just the bij akasharas used to empower other mantras.   They are usually not used for meditation by themselves and that is why  TM is considered by Indians as being rather unorthodox along with the  fact that there is no omkara.   Also at least in my tradition of tantra  (Kali) we don't give shakti mantras to lay people.  They are considered  too strong and too enlivening hence the complete opposite of what the  chiropractor said.  They must be handled with care.  Most likely due to  difficulties with pronunciation tantrics are more likely to have a  person use a yantra rather than learn a mantra to overcome certain  obstacles. In traditional tantra the bija is the sound-seed from which the mandala emerges. One can use it alone, but more typically one also uses the full dharani once one has established oneself as the deity (this would be referring more to anuttara-tantra where one *becomes* the deity rather than forms of tantra where the deity is external). But there are many different schools of tantra and many are corrupted due to age, etc. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___