Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Devas and the Gods

[Vaj]

On Nov 5, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Bhairitu wrote: One of the problems with the TM teaching is this idea that Vedic sages  "cognized" things in a mystical manner whereas other traditions will  tell you it was a trial and error thing.  Like others here after many  years of practice I have become very sensitive to the effects of  different mantras, herbs and foods.  This is probably the "cognizing"  the sages did.  What worked stuck and what didn't went away.  Of course  we could get really tin hat and say that the Vedas are what remains of a  teaching that came from another planet and were left by the "seeders"  who bred the human race.  An we can't disprove the latter any more than  we can prove the former.  :) After hanging around yogis who were cognizing new tantras of various levels--from outer, more ritual tantras, up to and including various non-dual tantras, I have no doubt these mantras, mandalas and mudras in various tantras come from a form of samadhic cognition (not that I think the word cognition is a good one). It's just that these methods and techniques are very rare and until recently were not even known in the west. Simply put, there is a level of consciousness where mandalas begin to arise--not because we visualize them and they take on a reality of their own--but because once we realize our non-dual nature, it's already there and does not require any effort by the mind (like visualization) to "manifest". It's this level of consciousness that the Vedas and the Tantras emerge from.  __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___