--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> <snip> The effect of imprinting, and decades of
> having been
> > told what is possible and what is not, is a tough
> > nut to crack. One of the reasons that I still like
> > Carlos Castaneda is that he is one of the only
> writers
> > in spiritual tradition I have ever encountered who
> > captured how powerfully witnessing or performing
> > actual siddhis affects one. It rocks your world.
> > Your whole *body* goes into shock, and your mind
> > starts working overtime to try to *dismiss* what
> you
> > just saw or experienced. You try to find any way 
> > you can imagine to make the experience GO AWAY. 
> > 
> > Why? Because holding to the beliefs that were
> taught
> > to you is *safe*, comforting. Suddenly finding
> your-
> > self in "new territory," where the *only* thing
> you
> > can trust is your own experience, is decidedly
> *not*
> > safe. It's scary.
> snip>
> 
> Hi, I just want to add that this is not everyone's
> experience. My 
> world was certainly not rocked by the results I
> experienced during 
> the sidhis. I recall the Carlos Casteneda books, and
> he didn't have 
> a long habit of spiritual practice in his life. Or
> perhaps it is 
> just what we consider possible or normal, or not. In
> any case, I 
> just took the sidhis expriences as the next thing to
> come along, and 
> I am sure there are many others that felt/feel the
> same way.

I think a distinction can be made here between
subjective siddhis such as sensing objects at great
distances, knowing the structure/intent of another's
mind, perceiving truth from untruth in speech, seeing
inside the body and siddhis that involve the physical
body in the objective domain such as flying or
increasing/decreasing size, invisibility, etc.. I've
experienced the former and they are no surprise and
are quite natural when they occur, but seeing the
latter would, I believe be a bit of a surprise and
perhaps make me have to change my Depends.   




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