sparaig wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     
>>>>   
>>>>         
>>> No you don't understand what I'm saying.  Certainly
>>> the mind is 
>>> "contained" in consciousness but what happens if the
>>> local tax collector 
>>> calls you and says "Peter, you own $5,000 in back
>>> taxes and have to pay 
>>> up by the end of the month or we'll take your
>>> house."  Do you remain 
>>> "meless" or does "the Peter and the tax bill"
>>> suddenly become the center 
>>> of focus?  My bet it is the latter. :)
>>>       
>> I understand you perfectly well and I still argue that
>> you are confounding consciousness with mind. "Me" is
>> an artifact of consciousness projected into and
>> identified with mind. This creates a "me" or an "I"
>> that is experienced as self. But this "me" or "I"
>> doesn't exist, it appears to exist in waking state,
>> but in CC this disappears and it becomes very clear
>> that there never was an "individual" called Frank, Tom
>> or Bob. In CC there is a perfect duality of
>> "empty-Self" and everything else including all
>> functions of mind. So you get the tax bill and
>> freakout in CC as you would in waking state. However
>> there is no you to freakout or not freakout in CC. Who
>> you are in CC has nothing to do with anything in the
>> relative. When you have a waking state "me" you
>> freakout over the bill. When you don't have a "me"
>> freakout over the bill still occurs, but it has
>> nothing to do with who "you" are. 
>>     
>
> Perhaps, though for many, freeakout might be too strong a reaction to 
> something as trivial 
> as a bill for backtaxes. Even many non-CC people are able to take such things 
> in stride.
Not a freakout but a reminder we still have to deal with sleepwalking 
zombies. 

This actually happened to me so that is why I used the example.  In my 
case the bank who had the mortgage failed to pay the supplemental 
taxes.  Also I didn't know I was supposed to get a copy of the tax bill 
even if the bank was paying the taxes.  That was the title insurance 
company's fault.  So some five years later I get a bill for taxes due 
and 2 weeks to clear it up.   The bank took care of it but if I had been 
away I could have returned home with someone else in my house just for 
the taxes owed.



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