--- In [email protected], "larry.potter" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tom wrote:
> 
> << Jim Flanegin writes snipped
> I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking 
> state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with 
> whatever. Sometimes Jim, sometimes not, sometimes past, sometimes 
> here, sometimes there, sometimes future. Doesn't matter- One thing 
> is 
> for certain- there is a *lot* more freedom, whether I like it or 
> not. 
> Sometimes I revel in the infinite, and other times it is like 
> falling 
> continuously without end, and grabbing for a rope that is never 
> there 
> for long. It is incomprehensible intellectually and comprehensible 
> only through being. 
> 
> Tom T:
> Jed McKenna (a FF Ru using a pseudoname) wrote in his book 
Spiritual
> Enlightenment the Damndest THing. That one could charaterize the 
> above
> feeling as "Free Fall Forever" and another awake friend said it is
> "all teflon all the way down" with absolutely nothing to cling to,
> attach to, or lean on. Now that really is incomprehensible by the 
> mind
> but just fine with consciousness. Tom   >>
> 
> 
> Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals 
> in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact
> that they can not "cling" to anything ?
> 
> If so, what would McKenna or others advise to "resolve" it or 
better 
> said smooth it in order that those who in that "free-fall forever" 
> state can also be productive in what we call the "daily life"?
>
Don't be attached to the non-attachment! :-)

Seriously, don't confuse the inner state with the outer 
responsibilities. Today I woke up at 5:30, meditated, and then began 
reinstalling my sink disposal, which has developed a leak due to the 
plumbing connecting the disposal to the drainage pipes being cut 
slightly too short by the original installer, causing the disposal 
to cant about 5-7 degrees off level, causing greater stress on the 
plumber's putty seal on the sink drain, eventually leading to a leak-
- which I have now repaired by essentially taking everything apart 
and putting it back together again- three hours. Also spoke with 
someone at length about a possible learning program redesign 
contract for a computer networks audience, which is what I do when 
not repairing the plumbing. 

I use the above as an example of how grounded and normal anyone can 
be while still experiencing "free-fall forever" during daily life. 
By  progressively culturing both states of awareness, inner and 
outer, over time they exist simul;taneously, clearly, without 
conflict, and without any *impairment* (lol!) to our daily activity. 

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