--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > <snip> > > Not much like Harvard or Yale actually. The integrity is way >higher > > & much more transparent at the real universities. Differently, >at > > MUM it takes so much more money when half of it disappears > abroad. > > No surprize that 250 people have backed out of providing their > money > > to Maharaishi now and the TMorg. The word is out. > > > > It is about integrity and this money thing kind of goes in the > same > > catagory with the movement not being able to easily attract the > 2,000 > > or 1700 people (M.E.) it was wishing for without hirlings. > > > > It is a sad story about the loss of integrity and a fallen guru. > > Look at the money problem, their research and their pr, they are > > apparently liars, cheaters and stealers in method. Qualities not > > usually associated with integrity. We'll see if Maharishi can re- > > write things as they have become at the end of his book in the > final > > chapter. > > > > Lots of people will write the epilogue when the time is ready and > > there is a lot of material for that. > > > > -Doug in FF > > I don't really see it as a problem with integrity- In other words I > don't think the money is being used to enrich anyone. As I've said > before the TMO including MUM has always struck me as nearly povery > ridden. The problem is that they feel they are not accountable to > their benefactors. I feel incalculable gratitude for Maharishi's > knowledge and could not really put a price tag on it. Having said > that, I give almost nothing to the Movement, because of > this "however we spend it is the best way, and no, we don't have to > tell you how because we are saving the world" attitude. Or more > precisely, when they pretend not to have the described attitude and > it leaks out anyway. I would feel better if they just said, "we need > money again for continued operations" and left it at that. >
Yeah, yours is a good synopsis of how a lot of meditator people feel here. It (hold the nose and go) is a moral choice and also about integrity. You live in FF and count yourself in the domes? You go to the domes? Would you if you live here? There are catagories of folk here. All meditators, some who could like to go but who are administratively denied, some who look the other way while going, some tru-believer types who make their moral chice to look the other way and see no evil, some who simply do not condone the bad behaviour and choose not to go & instead meditate in other groups or at home during dome times. It all is experience driven. It is a lot about integrity of consciousness and how people gauge for that. People make moral choices all the time which are also very much about Maharishi's integrity. Your comments are entirely common here around the TMorg, even people living on campus or up in Vedic City. It is fascinating to watch. It is about character and integrity and people deal with it in a variety of ways. That they (Maharishi and the TM0rg) could not acheive the numbers for the Maharishi Effect without hiring people and importing pundits, & still try to separate people from their money after all the other fundraising & conversion of assets? People sit with it differently but the numbers in the aggregate medtitating community have not been good for the TMorg for a while. It is also about integrity in the marketplace and the meditating community. Maharishi seemed to have fallen in the scale of things. So it is. I am quite hopeful in the end because there are so many really good people around here. It still is a great spiritual practice community to be in, like that Iowa motto, "Iowa, a great place to grow". There is also an enduring collective hope and prayer that Maharishi and the TMorg will grow out of its bad behaviours and spiritual arrogance. He's got time left in him yet. --Doug in FF
