--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> >wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > <snip> 
> > 
> > Not much like Harvard or Yale actually.  The integrity is way 
> >higher 
> > > & much more transparent at the real universities.  Differently, 
> >at 
> > > MUM it takes so much more money when half of it disappears 
> > abroad.  
> > > No surprize that 250 people have backed out of providing their 
> > money 
> > > to Maharaishi now and the TMorg.  The word is out.
> > > 
> > > It is about integrity and this money thing kind of goes in the 
> > same 
> > > catagory with the movement not being able to easily attract the 
> > 2,000 
> > > or 1700 people (M.E.) it was wishing for without  hirlings.  
> > > 
> > > It is a sad story about the loss of integrity and a fallen 
guru.  
> > > Look at the money problem, their research and their pr, they 
are 
> > > apparently liars, cheaters and stealers in method.  Qualities 
not 
> > > usually associated with integrity.  We'll see if Maharishi can 
re-
> > > write things as they have become at the end of his book in the 
> > final 
> > > chapter.  
> > > 
> > > Lots of people will write the epilogue when the time is ready 
and 
> > > there is a lot of material for that.
> > > 
> > > -Doug in FF
> > 
> > I don't really see it as a problem with integrity- In other words 
I 
> > don't think the money is being used to enrich anyone. As I've 
said 
> > before the TMO including MUM has always struck me as nearly 
povery 
> > ridden. The problem is that they feel they are not accountable to 
> > their benefactors. I feel incalculable gratitude for Maharishi's 
> > knowledge and could not really put a price tag on it. Having said 
> > that, I give almost nothing to the Movement, because of 
> > this "however we spend it is the best way, and no, we don't have 
to 
> > tell you how because we are saving the world" attitude. Or more 
> > precisely, when they pretend not to have the described attitude 
and 
> > it leaks out anyway. I would feel better if they just said, "we 
> need 
> > money again for continued operations" and left it at that.
> >
> 
> Yeah, yours is a good synopsis of how a lot of meditator people 
feel 
> here.  It (hold the nose and go) is a moral choice and also about 
> integrity.  You live in FF and count yourself in the domes?  You go 
> to the domes?  Would you if you live here?
> 
> There are catagories of folk here.  All meditators, some who could 
> like to go but who are administratively denied,  some who look the 
> other way while going, some tru-believer types who make their moral 
> chice to look the other way and see no evil, some who simply do not 
> condone the bad behaviour and choose not to go & instead meditate 
in 
> other groups or at home during dome times.  It all is experience 
> driven.  
> 
> It is a lot about integrity of consciousness and how people gauge 
for 
> that.  People make moral choices all the time which 
> are also very much about Maharishi's integrity.  Your comments are 
> entirely common here around the TMorg, even people living on campus 
> or up in Vedic City.  It is fascinating to watch.  
> 
> It is about character and integrity and people deal with it in a 
> variety of ways.  That they (Maharishi and the TM0rg) could not 
> acheive the numbers for the Maharishi Effect without hiring people 
> and importing pundits, & still try to separate people from their 
> money after all the other fundraising & conversion of assets?  
> 
> People sit with it differently but the numbers in the aggregate 
> medtitating community have not been good for the TMorg for a 
while.   
> It is also about integrity in the marketplace and the 
> meditating community.  Maharishi seemed to have fallen in the scale 
> of things.  So it is.  I am quite hopeful in the end because there 
> are so many really good people around here.  It still is a great 
> spiritual practice community to be in, like that Iowa motto, "Iowa, 
a 
> great place to grow".  There is also an enduring collective hope 
and 
> prayer that Maharishi and the TMorg will grow out of its bad 
> behaviours and spiritual arrogance.  He's got time left in him yet.
> 
> --Doug in FF

An american posing as an expert in character, intergrity and moral 
issues ? I'm sorry, but HAHAHA !


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