--- In [email protected], "nablusos108" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Surprisingly so. It's unlike Jim to be this angry.
> > > He must have had a twist in his panties yesterday.
> > >
> > The other remark I have about my challenges to you and Vaj 
yesterday
> > was that here you sit day after day after day, challenging much 
of
> > what TM is and who Maharishi is, and all who respond do so in the
> > context of evaluating TM and Maharishi.
> > 
> > So yesterday, understanding that I apply merciless rigor to TM 
and
> > Maharishi and the TMO with regard to my acceptance or not of 
them, I
> > decided "why should Turq and Vaj be getting a free ride out of 
all
> > of this?" Why not apply the same rigor and scrutiny to their
> > practices as I do to my own?
> > 
> > And the results were very eye opening, you True Believers
> > you!...Lol! :-)
> 
> This is no news. Those two fellows are hardcore religious Budhists.
> 
> Sometimes I just wonder why they bother. Their actions here seems 
> coordinated. 
> 
> You brilliantly pointed out that they are jelaous of the self-
> sufficiency of TM. No guru needed, no shaktipat needed, no 
retreats 
> needed, no fancy ceremonies, no study of anscient obscure texts. 
> Unless, ofcourse you actively seek it out within the TMO.
> And, no organized religion.
> 
> Just simply 2x20 minutes a day. No wonder they get agitated.
>  
> Then pointing out to the obvious fact that Tibetan Budhism is a 
> historic failure was like rubbing salt into the open wound.
> 
> This Vaj fellow avoided your question; "more experiements ?" for 
> obvious reasons.
> 
> :-)
>
I found some really creepy stuff regarding sexual abuse by several 
Tibetan Buddhist lamas that make the accusations against Maharishi 
seem like boy scout stuff.

And I'll say it again- the only reason I bring this stuff up is to 
try to have a balanced discussion here. It just seems so ignorant 
for all of us to be searching our souls to gain a balanced view of 
TM and Maharishi, while Vaj or whatever his name is, implies all 
sorts of awful things about the TM scene, while coming from a 
religion that seems a lot worse; impotent on the one hand, and 
abusive on the other. Tibetan Buddhism, who needs it?

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