--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > MMY came to this country BECAUSE India wasn't Vedic any more...
> 
> For our edification, could you provide us with historical
> references for the Vedic times you speak of?

Must be the Vedic times you were speaking of when
you asked, "So how's that reality fit into the 'Vedic
ideal,' eh?"

You know, 'cause that's what Lawson was responding
to above.

> You know the
> ones, the period referred to in a recent TMO Web page as,
> "...Vedic times, when life was lived in abundance, peace 
> and bliss."
> 
> As I remember the little literature I've read from 
> supposedly "Vedic times," it's a record of war, petty 
> grievances between the gods and demigods and pretty 
> much constant pleading from the lowly humans down on 
> planet Earth for these gods and demigods to take it 
> easy on them. So I seem to have missed the historical 
> records you are familiar with indicating that such 
> times were indeed a period of "abundance, peace and 
> bliss."

I don't believe Lawson said anything about being
familiar with historical records indicating this,
did he?  Or did you fantasize that he did?

And if all you remember is a "record of war,"
etc., as you say above, what did you mean when you
asked how plastic surgery in India fits into the
"Vedic ideal"?  Where did you find this "Vedic 
ideal" that is in such contrast to the tendency
of Indian movie stars to change their features
to become more Western?

I mean, if there is no such ideal, as you appear
to be suggesting in this post, then your demand
to know how current Indian practice fits with
this nonexistent ideal in your previous post
would seem to have been disingenuous. Or perhaps
just inadvertently nonsensical.

<snip>
> Thanks in advance for your research on this subject
> and the references you're going to post to help me
> understand this seeming dichotomy. Clearly, you know 
> something I do not and have access to historical
> documents that I do not that prove to you that the 
> "Vedic period" really WAS a period of "abundance, 
> peace and bliss." I'd just like to see those docu-
> ments

Likewise here, since Lawson didn't refer to any
historical documents: you're either being
disingenuous, or you're hallucinating again.

> and reassure myself that they don't start 
> with the two words, "Maharishi says..."

Oh, heavens, not just Maharishi by any means.
Were you really fantasizing that he invented
the idea?


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