--- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/9/07 11:18:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > > sparaig@ writes: > > > > > > But would the US be able to get away with standing by Israel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see why not. Don't we still have veto power in the UN > security > > > council? We would take some heat for being Israel's strongest, if > not only, allie. > > > But most everybody wants Iran stopped anyway, and nobody has the > balls to do > > > it except Israel. Israel's existence has been repeatedly > threatened by Iran > > > and if there were ever any justification for using a nuke, they > have it. > > > > > > > Key phrase "if there is any justification." > > > > Sorry, Sparaig, but your keyphrase is "I don't see.."
Hmmmm... I didn't use that phrase in anything you quote above... > > I've looked at your postings in this thread and can only make the > observation that the depth of your naivite is so painful that it could > make a stone weep. > > How can you not get what's going on? > > This is war. A war that seems poised to rapidly become really nasty. It is already quite nasty. The morgues in Bhagdad are operating at 5x capacity and turning bodies away. There's no way to get a reliable body count or even *estimate* the body count in that situation. > > What counts are the hard facts on the ground. Which no-one has access to in Iraq. No one side is able to talk to every other side at the same time and the situation is changing too fast to get a coherent picture by trying to piece together days-old info. We have a situation where the minority Sunni population in Iraq is being stepped on by the Shi'ite majority, while the Shi'ite government in Iran is sympathetic to the Shi'ite militias in Iraq who are being denounced as part of the problem by the American government while our ally, the Shiite majority Iraqi government, privately cheers them on and often funds them, and negotiates on the side with Iran, the very people that you think Israel would be justified in bombing with tactical nukes... Who would the Iraqi people side with, if Israel attacked Iran, do you think? > > Concepts like "just" and "emotions" and displays of public outrage is > a luxury only asinine Americans think mean something. > Public outrage means something in democratically elected societies and even in dictatorships (ask the Shah of Iran or Sandanista).
