--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > <no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 
<no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You're an idiot.   
> > > > > > > > In that quote you quoted, Maharishi's comment only 
> > referred 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > good karma that would come to your children when you 
are 
> > > > > > liberated 
> > > > > > > > and merge with the Cosmic. I tried to direct your 
mind 
> > to 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > fact 
> > > > > > > > in my last post , but intelligent posts are wasted 
on 
> > your 
> > > > > > scattered-
> > > > > > > > brain.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So now I'm twice the idiot!?! Oh well, who cares! BTW, 
> > please 
> > > > tell 
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > where you find it mentioned MMY only meant *good* 
karma?>>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You quoted it yourself:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "When a man is liberated and his individuality has 
merged 
> > into 
> > > > cosmic
> > > > > > existence, then the influence of his past karma will be 
> > received 
> > > > by
> > > > > > his son or grandson *or* by those who have blood 
affinity 
> > with 
> > > > > > him." -- MMY.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now, please explain to me the kind of BAD karma that a 
being 
> > > > has , 
> > > > > > who has become "liberated and has merged into cosmic 
> > existence"? 
> > > > To 
> > > > > > me this was obvious from the start, that such a being 
would 
> > have 
> > > > > > only good karma. To think otherwise is idiotic.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmmm... So you're saying that bad karma means you can't 
become 
> > > > enlightened?>>
> > > > 
> > > > Karma gets burned, en masse, in the purifying molten bliss 
of 
> > pure 
> > > > consciousness -- even the Gita says that. Getting 
enlightened is 
> > > > easy by using the fire of pure consciousness to burn up all 
the 
> > > > karma. That is Maharishi's whole point and whole movement is 
> > based 
> > > > on this idea.
> > > 
> > > So if the karma is burned up, where is this good karma you're 
> > talking about coming from?
> > 
> > Karma means Activity. There is always activity if a being is 
active. 
> > But, "in the vicinity of Yog, negative tendancies are 
illiminated", 
> > so an ascended being will only spread evolutionary influence 
when it 
> > is active in the world. You can only call this good karma, good 
> > influence. 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think that what is burned up is the seed of karma in the 
nervous 
> > system. The external  karmic influences (did I really use that 
term 
> > just now?) continue on indefinitely because 
> > > they're part of the relative existence of the universe.>>
> > 
> > Only Leisha Vidya ("the remains of the yagya" -- after the 
burning 
> > of the offerings) remains. Only enough of "ignorance" for there 
to 
> > be activity, but it does not overwhelm the bliss or 
enlightenment, 
> > nor the positive influence in the environment of an active 
ascended 
> > being (which purifies its environment). The karma no longer has 
a 
> > control (birth and rebirth) over the being, because the karma 
has 
> > been burned up in the fire of 'knowledge', as the Gita states.  
> > That is the theory Maharishi expounds, I am not saying I agree 
with 
> > it or anything, just sounds fair enough to me. I don't agree or 
> > disagree. 
> 
> That is NEW activity. Karm, good or bad, reverborates through all 
of eternity.>

Oh knickers.    
Karma gets burned in the fire of pure consciousness and all that is 
left is the remains of the fire - the ashes. Liesha Vidya. This is 
Vedic philosophy, the message of the Gita, and this is Maharishi's 
constant teaching.

OffWorld


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