--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > Maharishi and Guru Dev are/were apparently > > enlightened, right? > > Why do you assume this? > > I'm not trying to be argumentative, just to > bring up an assumption so common in the TM > movement that it is rarely challenged. Nor > does anyone give any thought to where the > assumption *came from*. It's just assumed as > a given and filed away in a box and every- > thing else one chooses to believe about TM > and its teachings is built on top of it. > > The fascinating thing is that I have met > many people like myself who, in my case > during 14 years in the TMO, *never once* > heard Maharishi say that he was enlightened. > Not once. And yet many of those *same* people > assume he is anyway. Their *belief* or *hope* > that he is enlightened is more important to > them than what they've actually heard him say. > Go figure. > > A similar puzzling phenomenon is seen in a > situation that has come up again recently, > whether TM is truly effortless. Faced with > a quote from Maharishi himself saying that > there is some subtle effort involved with > TM, many people cling *desperately* to the > "TM is completely effortless" dogma they > were taught, claiming that the quote is > inaccurate, that other people are "misin- > terpreting" it, whatever...*anything* but > challenge one of their longest-held assump- > tions. Again, go figure.
I used the word 'apparently', right, with a question mark, I agree with you, whether MMY is enlightened is NOT a foregone conclusion, Guru Dev though may be..... And you are also right, there is a so called 'effortless effort' involved in TM, but we do 'come back to the mantra', so it's not exactly aimless. >
