--- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >
> > My experience over the years is that as my consciousness rises if I 
> > spend any amount of time at all around non-meditators the majority of 
> > them start to seem like wild animals.  I guess this is because they are 
> > at the mercy of superficial influences which are like "lines drawn on 
> > water or lines drawn on air" for many of us.   I'm not saying that all 
> > non-meditators are like that as there are some people who just come
> into 
> > life at a higher level of evolution than others.  Nor am I positing
> some 
> > superiority thing.  It's just that if you spend any time with them 
> > beyond some casual contact they seem to go completely blindly off on 
> > tangents that I evolved out of years ago as so can be a little annoying 
> > (especially if they are trying to drag you along with them). 
> > 
> > My relatives who out of all of them only my oldest nephew learned 
> > meditation are always "so busy" and I think "no you just aren't able to 
> > handle life so well any more being blown about by an increasing amount 
> > of chaotic influences in our noisier world."  We as meditators tend to 
> > have a stable base of consciousness and the chaos of the world has less 
> > and less influence as our consciousness evolves.
> > 
> > I would like to hear other's *experience* on this and not theory.
> >
> Holy cow...where to start. I used to feel that way too when I had been
> in Switzerland for extended periods of time, only in the company of
> course participants and staff. When we would off to do something in
> the "real world" it was a wee bit scary.
> 
> Read up on cult behavior and "group think". You'll learn a lot. This
> "us on the inside...those on the outside" feeling...it's classic cult
> group think in my opinion and it isn't healthy.
>

I never was much impressed with the mood-making in Fairfield or the local TM 
center or 
whatever. OTOH, I was generally happy with the effects that rounding and/or 
Sidhis 
instruction had on me, and I *DID think that group program was noticibly 
different than 
meditating by myself. However, Life got in the way of moving to Fairfield and 
perhaps 
that's a good thing.

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