--- In [email protected], "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
<snip>
> > Of course they lie.  But that doesn't mean *everything*
> > they say is a lie.  In this case, there's no really
> > good evidence they were lying about what happened on
> > 9/11, at least about the main events.  It just doesn't
> > hold up under examination.
>
> >+++ The similarity has been noticed between this event and  the
> Reichstag fire in the thirties - they ended up with the Gestapo and we
> have homeland security and ever increasing executive branch powers. N.

Sure.  But bear in mind, that's a model Osama bin
Laden would have had motivation to use just as well
as the U.S. government. OBL's no dummy.  He's played
Bush and the neocons like a violin.

The terrorist types aren't the existential threat
they're made out to be.  The real existential threat
is the way we've been responding to them.


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