--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Intent is subtle effort. Intent is present in TM.
Nope. I don't necessarily intend to start TM and in fact, have had meditations where I started accidentally, sat there for 20 minutes with my mantra flitting in and out of my consciousnes, along with episodes of pure consciousness, and regular thinking, and then suddenly decided to look at my watch and realized 20 or 30 minutes had passed with me sitting with my eyes closed. [...] Subtle states > of mind are VERY enjoyable,very sattvic. But now the > mind gets stuck in this sattvic condition. Pure > consciousness is not sattvic (nor is it tamasic or > rajasic either) so effortlessness will not facilitate > Realization at this subtle level of mind. Seems like > the dharma of TM is to bring you right to the edge of > pure consciousness, but that final crossing-over is > the subtle Self/no-self discrimination. Perhaps more > lontime TMer's need to practice Ramana's experiential > (not intellectual) technique of Self-inquiry. Perhaps. But I've also had the experience of not doing much of anything during meditation, and not noticing any changes before, during and after, and only going through the motions of keeping my eyes closed for several minutes afterwards "just in case" I had actually been meditating. I finally decided that since I HAD thought the mantra a few times during that period of 20 minutes, it qualified as TM, even though I couldn't tell any difference between before, during and after.
