--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
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> > > Gentle means gentle. Just the intention to entertain the
> > > mantra is a gentle effort, as compared with just sitting
> > > there letting random thoughts run amok.
> > 
> > That dichotomy is a specific situation that sometimes
> > occurs: when you realize you've been having thoughts,
> > but the mantra does not then come of its own accord.
> > 
> > For me--and I believe Lawson has said the same thing--
> > the realization that one has been having thoughts is
> > (or often is) indistinguishable from the mantra.
> > 
> > As Lawson points out, the checking notes say that when
> > one begins to meditate and the mantra arises on its own,
> > that is "just the right start" to meditation.
> > 
> > Sometimes it's necessary to use "gentle effort" to
> > jump-start the mantra at the beginning of meditation
> > or after a train of thought has subsided.  So in that
> > sense you could say TM involves "gentle effort."  To
> > suggest that it involves "gentle effort" *throughout*,
> > as a rule for how to entertain the mantra, is just wrong.
> 
> *AT MOST* it involves gentle effort. As I've said, its an
> amazing thing: the way TM is taught, even the TM teacher
> need not "get it" in order for the student to.

Which is why MMY is so insistent on the much-maligned
"purity of the teaching."


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