--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the > > > > > > Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity gimmick? > > > > > > > > > > Uh...Dalai Lama. The Dali Lama was a surrealistic > > > > > figure in one of Salvador Dali's paintings, this > > > > > melted guy in ochre robes dripping over a table. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > Past a certain size, organizational structure disallows > > > > > > the boss from getting his hands dirty with the peasants. > > > > > > > > > > The last time the Dalai Lama was in Paris, I (whom > > > > > one could pretty well class as a "peon," since I > > > > > am not rich and am not a member of any established > > > > > Tibetan Buddhist sangha) was able to see him in > > > > > public several times and meet with him privately > > > > > for a few moments. He didn't ask me for a centime. > > > > > > > > > > If a spiritual teacher becomes inaccessible, it's > > > > > because he wants it that way, not because of the > > > > > size of the organization. > > > > > > > > > > Bull. > > > > > > > > > I second that emotion. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > I find this utterly fascinating. > > > > What do you think it is that these two TMers are > > reacting to here, and are so uptight about?
What do you think it is that makes Barry assume that anyone who challenges him is doing so because what he's said makes them "uptight"? <snip> > I might comment further that "different strokes > for different folks" works for students, as well. > As we all know, there are students of Maharishi's > who have spent well over 30 years studying with > him who have not only not met him, they've managed > to not even be in the same lecture hall with him, Fascinating locution, "studying with him." Who do you know, Barry, who has been "studying with" MMY for 30 years without ever seeing him in person? > even if they would have been sharing that intimate > gathering with 2000 other students in the lecture > hall. Something's always "come up" such that they > couldn't make the dozens of courses during which > they would have had the opportunity to see him. Which "students of Maharishi" would these be, Barry? Give us an example. Anyone from this forum? I'm racking my brains to recall anyone here explaining how something has always "come up" to prevent their seeing MMY in person. > Why? Different strokes for different folks. Some > seekers want a kind of "distant" relationship with > their spiritual teacher, one that (in my opinion) > allows them to *keep* him at a distance, and thus > to never encounter anything that might be jarring > to their selves' ideas about him or to those selves > themselves. Or, their ideas about him just aren't that crucial to their path. They don't feel the need to have a relationship with the teacher, distant or otherwise. Who the teacher is as a person is of no importance; what counts is the teaching and how it enriches their lives.
