Nice try, Barry.  But unfortunately it doesn't get
around the point that if what you really wanted was
to warn people away from TM by posting quotes from
FFL TMers, *you wouldn't make a big deal of it where
the TMers could see it*, because then they might
self-censor, and you wouldn't *want* them to do that.
It would kill the goose that laid the golden egg,
as it were.

The more you posture and bloviate here about what you
claim you're doing, the more you confirm that *isn't*
what you really intend.



--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > You can keep believing that I'm trying to "silence"
> > > > you if you want. That's just your own self importance
> > > > speaking. What I'm really doing is USING that self 
> > > > importance to broadcast a warning to a lot of people 
> > > > about what long-term exposure to the TMO and its dogma 
> > > > might do to them. And you *personify* one of the best 
> > > > such warnings I can possibly imagine. Are we clear now?
> > > 
> > > Barry.  Heads up, dood.
> > > 
> > > What you're doing is *transparent*.  You aren't
> > > fooling anybody.  All your "encouragement" for us
> > > to keep posting is part of the scheme.
> > > 
> > > *Of course* you're going to deny you're trying
> > > to silence us.
> > > 
> > > Consider:
> > > 
> > > If what you really wanted to do in posting your
> > > quotes was to warn others about us Terrible TMers,
> > > *you wouldn't be broadcasting it here*.  You
> > > wouldn't *want* us to know what you're doing,
> > > because then we might start censoring ourselves,
> > > and you wouldn't have as much material from which
> > > to cherry-pick.
> > > 
> > > That you're making this gigantic deal of it here is
> > > proof positive of your real motivation.
> > > 
> > > > Maybe what I should do, every time you rave about me 
> > > > trying to "silence" you, is add another forum to the
> > > > distribution of THINGS TMers BELIEVE. Then maybe you
> > > > will get the point that "what Barry wants" is for you
> > > > to KEEP writing, and thus KEEP warning people away
> > > > from something that, in my honest opinion, has the 
> > > > potential of turning them into someone just like you.
> > > 
> > > Translation:  Barry wants me to shut up about his
> > > real motivation, so he threatens to post his quotes
> > > even more widely if I keep pointing out that what he
> > > really wants is to silence us.
> > > 
> > > More proof.  Thanks for the confirmation.
> > > 
> > > It's not rocket science, Barry.  It's as transparent
> > > as glass.  But you're too blinded by your hatred and
> > > fear to realize how openly you've given yourself away.
> > 
> > Ah, the predictability of out-of-control ego
> > and self importance.  :-)
> 
> This is fun, in a perverse sorta way. It's clear
> that I can continue to be *perfectly* up-front
> about what my intentions are and what I want Judy
> to do (that is, write even MORE insane comments
> that I can include in THINGS TMers BELIEVE),
> and she won't hear a word of it.
> 
> The fascinating thing (and here I'm talking to 
> those here who get it, not to Judy) is that the
> very mindset I am trying to expose CANNOT
> CONCEIVE OF ITSELF AS BEING A BAD 
> EXAMPLE.
> 
> Therefore Judy will NEVER feel the need to self-
> censor, and will KEEP posting things that, in 
> all likelihood, make quite a few strong TM 
> supporters here cringe when they read them, and
> wish that she WOULD shut up. But even if THEY 
> told her what she's doing she wouldn't be able 
> to hear it, because she's that far gone.
> 
> And the more I tell her the truth about what I'm
> doing, and why, the more she'll believe it's a 
> lie and that I'm trying to trick her. Because if
> she believed what I'm actually saying, she might
> have to deal with the possibility that what I'm
> saying about her, and about how people in the larger
> world of self discovery see her, is true. And that
> is the one thing that Judy Stein can never admit
> to herself. Ever. Her ego (or small self) is firmly
> in charge, and as far as I can tell will remain in
> charge until the day she dies (and, as we all know,
> long after that).
> 
> Her very inability to believe that she has any
> significant faults makes her the most manipulatable 
> person on the face of the earth. If I want her to 
> display those faults to others, all I have to do is 
> tell her that that's WHAT I want her to do. And 
> voilĂ ...that is exactly what she WILL do.
> 
> It feels a little like shooting fish in a barrel,
> but the whole point of this exercise is to use the
> fanatics of Fairfield Life to warn away as many
> people as possible from having anything whatsoever
> to do with the TMO and its dogma, so shoot away
> at fish I will do. Bam.
>


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