--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:59 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > 
> > > The bulk of the evidence is that he *was* revered
> > > for his personal qualities.
> > 
> > That's called a "cult of personality," Judy, and is 
> > usually not considered very healthy.  Reverence for 
> > him and others like him based on personal qualities 
> > might be one of the reasons India is such a mess.
> 
> Exactly. *George W. Bush* is revered by millions
> of Americans for his personal qualities.

Reverence for a leader on the basis of his or her
personal qualities does not, of course, automatically
constitute a "cult of personality."

A "cult of personality" exists when the reverence
for the leader is based on alleged personal qualities
that he or she either does not actually possess, or
that are irrelevant in evaluating his or her actions
as a leader (as Shakespeare has Hamlet describe the 
fratridical King Claudius, "That one can smile, and
smile, and be a villain").

The term therefore is an expression of opinion about
the leader's character and/or the nature of his/her
actions, not a statement of established fact.

And obviously, that the majority of Americans would
now say support for Bush constitutes a "cult of
personality" says absolutely zero about whether the
reverence for Guru Dev entailed a "cult of
personality."  Each case must be evaluated on its
own merits.

The equivalence Barry draws is a little like saying
that because the fans of Andrea Bocelli revere him
despite his lack of genuine musical talent, therefore
reverence for Placido Domingo is equally misplaced.

Also, it's not always one or the other.  Bill Clinton
was revered for his personal qualities at least as
much as Bush is, despite some serious failures of
character; but their respective failings, both
personally and politically, are hardly comparable in
terms of their effects on national and global well-
being.

(Well, one might say Clinton's inability to keep his
zipper up had the effect of putting George Bush in
office, but that just highlights the complexities
involved in applying the "cult of personality" label.)


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