--- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The funny thing is that I read that Guru Dev page that was 
> posted
> > > > > earlier, 
> > > http://www.srigurudev.net/srigurudev/gurudev/biography.html
> > > > > trying to just understand what his quotes revealed about 
> him.  He 
> > > > came
> > > > > off like such a priggish old fart.  Obsessed with people 
not 
> > > sinning
> > > > > and preparing for death.  Teaching the scriptures without 
his 
> own
> > > > > thinking entering in, just like the good little 
> fundamentalist 
> > > Hindu
> > > > > he was. The quotes could have been Jimmy Swaggart if you 
just 
> > > > changed
> > > > > the name of the God.  I don't know what motivates a kid to 
> try to
> > > > > leave home at 9, never have relationships with women to 
the 
> point 
> > > of
> > > > > banning them from his presence when he is older, and 
living 
> as a
> > > > > homeless man in National Parks away from all people...but 
I'm 
> not
> > > > > giving him special guy credit for it.  There are much 
simpler
> > > > > explanations.
> > > > 
> > > > Those much simpler explanations, though, might also
> > > > have to cover why so many people in India, from all
> > > > strata of society, revered him so deeply.
> > > > 
> > > > And oh, by the way, one doesn't usually refer to a 
> > > > hermit who makes his home in the forest for spiritual
> > > > reasons as a "homeless man."  That's what's called
> > > > "loading the language" in anti-thought reform circles.>>
> > > 
> > > Yes, that is rather radical to use that terminology, as there 
is 
> a 
> > > big difference between someone like Guru Dev and someone like 
> > > Turpuiose B.
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, what do you consider that difference
> > to be?>>>
> 
> 
> The former lived in the forest and exhibited acumen and 
conviction, 
> the latter is homeless, scattered, and directionless.
> 
> I would have thought those facts were obvious.
> 
> OffWorld
>
They are.

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