--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/11/2007 11:53:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> And so Peter Sutphen is saying that :
>
> ""anyone who seriously believes that such a project by Sri Sri Ravi
> Shankar is possible has spent way too many years drinking the
> koolaid. That being said, if you approach your involvement in this
> as, on one hand, total absurdity, and on the other hand, as
> something
> your mind can do to break all boundaries, then fine. It will be
> your "controlled folly" to borrow a term from Carlos Castenada. But
> failure to recognize the absurdity of this and to delude yourself
> into thinking that it will actually occur without acknowledging the
> absurdity of it just makes your mind and intent very, very weak. Why
> let Sri Sri Ravi Shankar enslave you? Does he have to hammer nails
> into your palms to get you to wake-up to your own spiritual
> intent?""
>
> Sounds a bit harsh against SSRS. When MMY opens up a
> new university or Dr. John Haglin that's OK.
The search-and-replace job above was parody, Lou.
It was intended to say that Peter S's support of
SSRS's projects was no different than any TMer's
support for the TMO's projects. Me, I think Peter
makes a good point in his statement, *whatever*
spiritual teacher or movement he might be referring
to.
> SSRS is doing wonderful humanitarian projects all over
> the world. This is just another project that encourages
> the average person to apply. SSRS is not just catering
> to the upper class like Dr. John Haglin and MMY.
That's really the difference, isn't it. In one
spiritual organization you are welcome whatever
your financial status, and in the other your
financial status is looked upon as an indication
of your state of evolution and thus your worthi-
ness to participate. And this is true from the
first moment ("Welcome to enlightenment...do you
have your $2500 with you?") to the last ("Want to
be "close" to Maharishi? Only a million bucks, and
the "closeness" will only be via video, of course,
but we can assure you that it's worth it. Besides,
you'll get to wear long, flowing robes and a gold
Burger King crown.") And the amazing thing is that
some people actually go for the latter.
> Everyone looks welcome at his school not just for those
> who are intellectually refined or have enough money to
> attend. When I took the Art of Living courses with SSRS in
> Canada in 1990 he made me feel like we were equals.
A rare talent among spiritual teachers. Consider
yourself very fortunate to have encountered it.
> So many have left MMY to be with his organization not
> because they didn't want to be with MMY organization but
> because they saw no room for growth on the level of the
> heart.
Can't argue with you here. The TMO's policies seem
*designed* to offend the heart-centered. I mean,
they still haven't figured out that requiring the
TM teachers who had worked for them for decades to
be "recertified" and pay for that privilege with big
bucks, not to mention committing to giving up their
lives to work full-time for an organization that in
all likelihood was never going to follow through on
its promises to pay them...was an *insult*. A heart-
breaking insult.
> It was all about what the TMO wanted without considering
> the average person or the feelings of those who made up
> the body of the organization in the first place. Too much
> of "We have all the answers" so just listen to our
> enlightened authority or well throw you out of the
> golden dome so you can meditate in the corn fields.
But they DO have all the answers, Lou. Haven't you
noticed how strongly the TM supporters here argue over
matters of opinion to "prove" that they are "right" and
that those who don't agree with them are "wrong?"
Wake up and smell the Truth. The TMO *specializes* in
"having all the answers." And those who are more inter-
ested in memorizing all the "right" answers than in
asking questions are going to be attracted to it. Others
will find a happier home elsewhere.
> I don't think people want another Guru with SSRS, they just
> want a more relaxed approach to finding one's own self-
> empowerment and a true vision that includes all of humanity
> not just the lucky chosen few. Love and Light. Lou Valentino
Either that, or they're looking for a spiritual tradition
in which being a spiritual seeker and searching for know-
ledge wherever one can find it and with whomever one happens
to find it is not considered Off The Program and thus a
valid reason for being excommunicated.
The TM movement is a dead parrot, nailed to its perch.
It's bleedin' demised. And its only lingering members and
supporters are those who either haven't noticed after
decades that they were sold a dead parrot, or who noticed
it years ago but have never had the balls to go back to
the pet shop and ask for their money back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
Beautiful plumage that the Rajas get to wear, eh?