-bdlow: Vaj says Ramana is dead and the neo-Advaitins have created a type of pseudo-religion. Vaj, for once, I agree with most of your statements; and in corroboration, I will offer up a profound statement of Adi Da: "Dead Gurus don't kick ass". (an interesting twist on the elder Bush's famous statement). The real question, though, is...: is the statement TRUE? No. Don't have time to go into this in detail, except to say that I've had two extremely powerful "inner plane" experiences with Ramana; and in support of an opposing viewpoint, much circumstantial evidence points to his being MORE powerful being "dead" than prior to his physical death in 1950. For example, in the tape "Sage of Arunachala", the very last few frames, people are shown leaving Sri Ramanasramam in 1950 after he died. Then the narrator continues by saying that after a brief period had elapsed, people realized that his Presence was not only undiminished, but rather, He (and associated murtis like the Arunachala Hill and the Temple); became MORE powerful with time. The growing numbers of Neo-Advaitins tend to magnify his power, even though only a few of them are still devoted to Ramana. To conclude, Ramana is FAR more powerful than most living Gurus, say Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche. Also, Guru Dev (SBS) still "lives" every time a puja is done. His Shakti is probably far more powerful now than in 1957.
-- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:05 PM, qntmpkt wrote: > > > --I doubt that you'll be able to collect any dirt on Ramana > > Maharshi. He's "impeccable" as to moral standards....in the same > > category as Guru Dev. > > > The only dirt on Ramana is that HE IS DIRT. He's dead. Long gone. My > impression of Ramana (having watched his DVD) is that he was an > average yogi with a semi-extraordinary life who just happened to > awaken at a time when communication systems allowed him to jump to > worldwide notoriety. Don't get me wrong, I like Ramana, but in the > larger picture he was just a realizer showing up at the right place > at the right time. There were hundreds or thousands of realizers we > never, ever heard about. He had good interdependent supporting > factors. Sadly now his legacy is used support various neo-advaitins. > > The only with problem Ramana and other dead advaitins is how they are > misappropriated by current sadhakas as rationales for their own "look > at me, I'm enlightened schemes." Not that that was ever anything > Ramana supported, but 'dead Ramana' plays poster boy for alotta > Pseudo-advaitins who are hangin'out their satsang shingle at Ramana's > expense. It's like this poor guy's corpse is hauled out every now and > then when someone wants to use him. >
