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--- In [email protected], "coshlnx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---There's no contention that all is already "That". The point is to > Realize IT. Are you saying that people are to instantaneously > realize IT simply because you say "Ye are already THAT?". > **snip to end** No; or at least, not exactly. However, it seems impossible not to repeat that because That *Is* the reality (as so many sages seem to agree) and its repetition bears repeating. What else are you going to wsay? Furthermore, its repetition keeps the attention directed towards what can That possibly be if it's everything, including mySelf. It's the earnest inquiry into the Self that keeps you going by helping you grow in the experience. And in my experience, when I read Nisargadatta's "I Am That" and started to experiment with his version of self-inquiry by putting my attention on my own sense of presence, or putting attention on attention itself, it just seemed to open up or put into play what I had learned from Maharishi. There was the sense of realization of Self that I recognized as always being there (never not), and also what I had already been very familiar with through meditation but for some reason, had still overlooked. That's not a claim to be enlightened; it's more similar to what Barry describes as his experience rather than Jim's description. But there is a persistent sense of presence that is always there 24/7 and when the attention turns to it there is an abiding feeling of peace, satisfaction and deep pleasure. An everyday absence of worry, a sense that there's nothing that doesn't take care of itself, no fear, and complete confidence in whatever is. It's what the TM introductory lecture promised. That's all. Marek
