I'm not a big one for conspiracy theories, period, because of Occam's Razor. It's always more likely that the event(s) transpired because of Everyday Human Stupidity than because of some elaborate plot that would then need covering up.
But the reason I'm replying, Edg, is to talk about self-fulfilling prophecies. That seems to me to be what's going on in your comments about Kaliyuga below. It's like you *assume* that Kaliyuga is a reality, not a myth. Therefore, since it IS a reality, the world's fucked no matter what we do because... duh...it's Kaliyuga, and in Kaliyuga *everything* is fucked. Being fucked is "God's plan" during Kaliyuga. Self-fulfilling prophecy. What if every "yuga" in human history were just puny little humans trying to get their puny little minds around the illusion of time vs. the reality of Now? They make up all sorts of stories about how Now *seems* fucked because it's not part of the *cool* yuga. We're fucked because we're living in the *uncool* yuga, Kaliyuga. And if you buy into this crap, you buy into Never Really Trying Very Hard To Change Things. How could we change this great, cosmic cycle of yugas, after all? IT (the myth) is...uh...cosmic, after all, and we're just actors in some kind of low-rent soap opera called Kaliyuga, reading our lines and acting them out without any say in the script and the story it tells. Not my kinda myth, sorry. If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that individuals CAN change the world they find themselves in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles of time have nothing whatever to do with it. "God's plan?" Man, I don't believe in a God, period, much less that he/she/it has a *plan*. The universe is Just What Happens, and we all MAKE it happen. We achieve what we believe we can achieve, and myths that seem to have been *designed* to make us believe that we can't achieve very much because it's "Kaliyuga" just don't float my boat. --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's hard enough getting my head wrapped around the facts dealing with > the 911 Towers coming down and that it might be an evil -- supremely > evil -- inside job -- my jury's still out on it, but if ever such a > deal could be pulled off, BUSHCO wouldn't have a problem with green > lighting it, and THAT global entity blackheartedness is the real place > where the media sun don't shine. > > But the fake-trip-to-the-moon paranoia just cannot grab me anymore. > There's tons of solid debunking of that theory, so I don't need to > cover that territory -- just google it. But to save you the time, > here's my best retort. The concept I know of that really cuts to the > bottom line, the one that most works for me to prove we actually did > go to the moon, is the fact that during those days, the USSR was in > our face for everything, and so there's a whole country of scientists > that would have loved to prove that NASA was faking it and shame us > before the world (you know, like politicians have done to us) -- and > the Soviets had all the artifacts, photos, etc. that conspiracy > advocates use even today, but nothing like a BIG EXPOSE happened -- > the USSR never cried foul. And if they couldn't prove it, no youtube > video is going to prove it. > > But hey, from late 1998 to late summer 1999, I thought Y2K > computer-date errors were going to be the end of civilization, so if > you believe NASA never went to the moon, who am I to toss the first > stone at ya? > > And before that, I made believe that this isn't really Kali Yuga, and > that I was a doer with potency, and that if we all just got enough > silence, we'd turn into good people. But then I found out that a > "good" person in Kali Yuga is the one that manifests God's plan: > which is to manifest KALI YUGA! God wants to see every kind of > darkness now -- and He's got us creating it all. And if we help out, > we're the good guys, doncha see? If we resist, well, that's just so > Kali Yuga can snuff the resisters -- no matter how many yagyas they do. > > It's going downhill, folks. But hey, it's a free ride! > > Edg > > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Qhqzg99t4 > > > > At 4:30 and 7:30 the stones on the foreground > > > > seem exactly the same!? :) > > > > > > > > > The voice-over at 4:30 mentions the crater. It's just bad editing > > and > > > direction. At the 7:30 mark, the voice mentions this four kilometer > > > drive to get to the crater, so it creates the illusion that they're > > > going somewhere new that the video piece hadn't shown yet, but in > > > actuality, they'd edited in a clip of that crater segment.....call it > > > a teaser.. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > What do think of this? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5YyolUHAw&mode=related&search= > > >
