--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > Re my prior suggesting on exiling bickering posters for 3-4 days, that > could include baiting. B^2 -- Bickeraing and/or baiting. The > distinction I make is that one can ciriticize a post, but not the > poster. A fine and often illusory line at times. But trying to analyze > the person , their traits, motives, etc is or leads to baiting and > bickering. > > An example from this morning. > > Judy writes: > > "Notice that it appears to be impossible for Barry > to say something positive about any of the folks on > this forum without at the same time attacking others. > > Even if those he's attacking exist only in his own > imagination." > > This is the type of seed that evolves into bickering and an endless cycle. > > Did Barry start it? Maybe. > > "There are some people who > > have resisted the rule strongly, perceiving it and railing > > against it as some kind of limit on or censorship of > > their seemingly divine right to express themselves -- as > > often as they want and in any way they want. Me, I couldn't > > help but notice that some of the people who feel this way > > are the very posters who -- in my opinion -- have the least > > to say. All they do is react to Other People's Ideas and/or > > spout Other People's Dogma. They rarely seem to have any > > of their *own* creative thoughts to contribute." > > The use of "some people" is a thinly veiled code for "Judy" -- plus > selected others.
Of course it is. He's spent entire posts attacking me for not initiating threads, as if that were the only way one could contribute original thoughts. That's a crock, as anyone who's read my posts knows. And while I don't like the posting limit, I have never "railed against it as some kind of limit on or censorship" of my "seemingly divine right" to express myself. I just don't think it's an effective way to stop the real problem, which is exactly the kind of personal attack Barry has just made--thinly disguised (as in this post) or right out in the open. This is what needs to be stopped. There's nothing to keep Barry (or anyone else, but he's been by far the worst offender) from using one or two of his five posts a day for attacks of this kind. He's managed to restrain himself for a couple of weeks now since his thoroughly disgraceful "addiction" attack on me (see #136294), but obviously he needs some "assistance" to keep the urge under control on a long-term basis. > While these posts are not very inflamatory, they can lead to that. > Focus on ideas not posters. Or get suspended. I'm for that 100 percent. I also agree with what you said in your earlier post: <snip> > > However,another > > angle on all of this is that the 5-rule has squashed creative and > > insightful back and forth discussion
