"Ain't it just heartbreaking, the level of FEAR that people
> must live with on a daily basis to really *get into* guns?
> I know a fellow who is one of the sweetest guys you could
> ever meet. You'd like him...he's a musician, and a pretty
> good one. Guitars, keyboards, the whole tamale. Got a wife,
> couple of kids. Started life as a Divinity student and 
> almost became a preacher. Owns over 30 guns. He's one of
> the ones I mentioned in the previous posts who already
> has plans for how he's going to hide the guns when "they"
> come looking for them."


I only am responding to this part but there were many great lines.  In
particular I could use the address of chicks who are retired at 33 in
Spain and who made a living making men happy.  I have a theory that I
want to test.

I went through a few thought processes on the gun part.  At first I
thought that it seems a little harsh because I know some people who
are into shooting as a sport and it is more like the zen of archery. 
The little target shooting I did a while back was very interesting
physically.  I had to learn how to totally relax and squeeze the
trigger with no anticipatory flinch as a loud explosion happened in my
hand. (don't even go there Turq, I know how you think!)  The guys who
were good at it were really cool cookies, very disciplined and
self-contained, like being in CC but with hollow points if you know
what I mean.  So on on one level this is a sport like archery and it
requires an amazing amount of practice to get really good at it.  It
is kind of addictive to beat your own previous scores.  Some collector
types get a rush from adding an exotic new version of gun and I'm not
sure it is any different from my unquenchable desire to own more guitars.

When I first started studying Brazilian Jiu-jitsu I noticed that I
felt calmer around guys in business situations who would try to use
anger to get their way.  They wouldn't get my inner primal monkey
riled up.  It made me calmer and more relaxed.  

But on the other hand, after I dislocated my shoulder (actually it was
a hefty Japanese judoki who did it for me) I noticed that over time I
stopped thinking about people attacking me.  I hadn't realized how
often the defensive thought process would come up in public places. (
I spend a lot of time in public restrooms doing research on my
upcoming book on George Michael)  I stopped assessing guys while
shaking their hands which had become automatic from years of grabbing
a new guy in class and evaluating how much trouble it was going to be.
 It mostly faded away.  I definitely did feel less anxiety caused by
my sport being a version of controlled ass-kicking. 

I also know guys who are practically begging for the social order to
break down.  Armed to the teeth, they point to Bosnia where ordinary
people where plunged into Mad Max's reality overnight.  Africa has
plenty of examples.  So could it happen here?  Couple dirty bombs, a
little social chaos from some anthrax Christmas cards, and I guess it
might happen.  But if I have to load up my closet with ammo and
powdered milk like they do, I am probably not gunna run my dog in this
race.  My closet is already too full of tin foil undergarments to help
block the CIA mind control rays that emanate from the Pentagon. 





--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and 
> > flexibility.
> >
> > Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry 
> > in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the 
> > still booming indoor growing  primo bud industry. Shut down 
> > meth labs in the Midwest? No problem, now it is coming over 
> > the border in tractor trailers from both northern and southern 
> > borders. (purer quality too) Nature just hates a vacuum.
> 
> Entrepreneurs hate one even more. I know a couple
> of guys in Santa Fe who look forward with *glee*
> to America banning the legal sale of guns. They'd
> be in business as gunrunners the next day. The only
> reason they aren't in that business now is that they
> wouldn't be able to compete, pricewise, with the
> legitimate gun dealers.
> 
> > We used to have certain streets in DC where hookers would 
> > stand around. 
> 
> I was nowhere near that neighborhood. I don't care
> what they said in News Of The World.
> 
> > They put in an ordinance that prevented people from from
> > turning right on those streets so it was harder for people 
> > to cruse by and shop for some tender lov'n STDs. So now we 
> > have brothels in the suburbs, even in classy neighborhoods.  
> > It is so much more convenient plus it is easier to hide 
> > your human slave girls from Eastern Europe in big houses. 
> > Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom line.
> > Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you can 
> > overlook the haunted look of human despair in their 
> > eyes. 
> 
> Interestingly, I hear that a couple of brothels in
> Amsterdam tried that, and nobody wanted the women.
> Complete washout. And I suspect the reason is that
> look of despair you're talking about. Even the
> tourists noticed it.
> 
> Most of the women in the sex industry (hey! that's
> what they call it) in Amsterdam are independents.
> Raised Dutch, with few inhibitions about sex, many
> of them look at it as a ten-year gig that they can
> retire from with enough money so that they never
> have to work again for the rest of their lives. And
> for many of them, that is exactly how it turns out.
> I know a few of them, who now live in Spain in their
> own houses and are retired at 33. Go figure.
> 
> But there are the hard cases, too. The women who got
> into drugs, or who are just *into* being abused. You
> get a lot of that in Amsterdam. Heavy S&M scene. And
> they have a bit of that look in their eyes, too. Not
> to the extent that someone kidnapped from their 
> country or sold into slavery by their parents would
> have, but it's still a sad, world-weary look that I,
> for one, would never be able to get past. 
> 
> > (I recommend meth )
> 
> Exactly. Anyone who *could* get past that look would
> probably enjoy meth.
> 
> > Cops in DC had a money for guns program till they figured 
> > out the kind of guns people where selling them, the ones 
> > they never use because they are broken.  
> 
> Yup. Same thing in New Mexico. They'd find a rusted-
> out old Winchester with no collector value and get
> 100 bucks for it at the police station. They wouldn't
> have been able to get 5 at a pawn shop.
> 
> > That way they could take the money from the broken
> > gun sale an buy a piece that could sling some lead for 
> > reeeeeeaaaaal. 
> 
> Sadly, it might be true. When I was young, I lived for a
> time in El Paso, Texas and grew up around gun nuts. They
> infected me for a while, and I freely admit to having
> owned guns at one point in my life. Heck, I even found
> a used Ruger 22-caliber rifle at a gun show one day and
> bought it just to see if I convert it to full auto as
> easily as my friends said I could. It took me less than
> two hours, and I had a machine gun. I took it out in the 
> desert and ripped off a few 50-shot clips then looked 
> at the boxes of empty ammunition at my feet and at the 
> receipt for them still in the bag, and I sold the gun 
> the next day. Neither of the gun sales was ever official
> or tracked by any law enforcement agency. I was 17. 
> 
> It's a big problem. It's not an easily-solved problem.
> 
> > While people are busy getting rid of drugs, hookers and 
> > guns I was wondering if they could also get rid of that 
> > last five pounds that is keeping me from my 6 pack abs.  
> > (alright its ten, so shoot me)
> 
> Unfortunately, approximately 100 million Americans are
> able to do just that. 
> 
> Ain't it just heartbreaking, the level of FEAR that people
> must live with on a daily basis to really *get into* guns?
> I know a fellow who is one of the sweetest guys you could
> ever meet. You'd like him...he's a musician, and a pretty
> good one. Guitars, keyboards, the whole tamale. Got a wife,
> couple of kids. Started life as a Divinity student and 
> almost became a preacher. Owns over 30 guns. He's one of
> the ones I mentioned in the previous posts who already
> has plans for how he's going to hide the guns when "they"
> come looking for them.
> 
> Wouldn't it be a trip if someone could invent some kind
> of meditation technique that would help people like this
> to relax? Something non-denominational and easily-learned
> and cheap -- it shouldn't cost more than 35 bucks for a 
> student and $75 for an adult. Something like that could
> even change the world.
> 
> More realistic than rent-a-pundits and Woo Woo Rays, eh?
>


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