With only one post left today I knew how I would use it. I had a point by point defense for Judy's post. I was being clever (in my own mind), proving how wrong she was and how right I am!
Then the two positive posts from Geezer and Vaj broke my dark trance and I was reminded why I post here. Thanks for the hand helping me out of the black hole of my own creation. I don't have to respond to people who wish me ill and always have. I need to spend my 5 on people like you guys. Much appreciated! --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 2, 2007, at 6:24 PM, geezerfreak wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > Girish got no game? The rise of trust-fund gurus. > > > > > > Shemp's points about Girish got me thinking...is he the Paris Hilton > > > of gurus? How would people relate to him if he tries to take over > > the > > > whole show after MMY? > > > > > > Pros for Girish include his dynastic relationship with MMY. It is > > > like the Shia thing. He is part of Mohammad's family so he has a > > > clear channel to the source. Indians would probably be impressed > > with > > > his family relationship and his obvious wealth. I think he is better > > > positioned for the East. > > > > > > On the Sunni side we have the idea that the movement should elect a > > > person who the most people can rally around. But this is > > problematic. > > > (Best word in this whole post. Sounds like a 50's invention) In the > > > West we love gurus with a "story" and Girish has none. One of MMY's > > > charms was his story. I loved to think of him sitting in the > > Himalayas > > > for two years with few thoughts like Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times, > > > so wasted on his "Self" that he could hardly move. I thought of > > him as > > > an innocent monk in the library in South India, going to the temple > > > every day oblivious to his future mission. (Of course this blows > > apart > > > any idea that Guru Dev actually gave him any instructions before he > > > died. MMY's story of the "innocent" start of the movement is in > > > direct contrast to the myth of his "mission".) I saw him as the > > > charming little imp in Hermit in the House, running up the Olsens > > > phone bill to start up his business, but turning off the lights > > as if > > > he caught the hint that he was overstaying his welcome. Even the > > > Beatles story worked for a while till his ambitions became too great > > > and he started looking more like he was using them instead of > > > enlightening them. (As an aside I always felt that it was his > > > insistence about using the Beatles for his marketing that was the > > > breaking point, not his pawing the disciples. The Beatles were > > sick of > > > people trying to cash in on their fame) After all these charming > > > stories MMY hit his power stride. Probably him starting the "World > > > Government" was the end of his most cute puppy-like era. Once his > > > true ambitions kicked in as a "world leader" ranting to other actual > > > world leaders, he lost a lot of charm IMO. He began to resemble The > > > Donald. For people who longed for the "good old days" there is Ravi > > > Shankar who has plenty of the old MMY charisma and charm. MMY > > without > > > the "world domination" ambitions. (yet?) > > > > > > Girish has none of this. No story, no game. He has a Paris Hilton > > > vibe. Even though Paris is fabulously famous she has little ability > > > to influence people to do anything, which a guru needs to control an > > > organization. She gets paid to wave at crowds at new club openings > > > but the kids aren't ready to take any instructions from her. > > > Girish's claim to fame is that he was born with the gold ghee > > lamp in > > > his hand. So how can he excite any fantasy in his followers? He is > > > just another dude like us but with a famous relative, he is a > > Spelling > > > kid, or another rich rocker's-model wife genetic freak. I never > > met a > > > guy who inherited great wealth who didn't have the "entitlement > > > disease". (or is it all just jealousy projection?) George Bush seems > > > full of his entitlement and self confidence based on all the wrong > > > reasons. (growing up with people kissing your ass seems like a > > bad way > > > to develop personality.) Girish needs an image branding overhaul. He > > > could start with a little Katie Couric style Photoshop slimming > > of his > > > gulab jamun fortified cheeks, and stop sitting in front of his own > > > huge picture looking like his tongue might shoot out and pull a > > pundit > > > boy into his huge mouth. > > > > > > Does the younger generation (excuse me sonny, can you had me my > > cane) > > > have the same need for Gurus that we boomers did? I guess it is a > > > part of human nature and our primate past to want an alpha to > > lead us, > > > but it seems as if this system is breaking down a bit. We have > > gone a > > > long way through every kind of scandal of all our religious and > > > political leaders to be innocent enough again. The kids brought > > up on > > > a diet of John Stewart seem to have "snark" where we had hero > > worship. > > > I don't sense that the younger generation is as apt to buy into one > > > person having figured it all out. Of course they also don't > > strike me > > > as a generation of readers, so I'm not sure how that will be > > abused by > > > people with image power. "Whatever" may have replaced "far out" > > but it > > > requires the same amount of neuron activity. (zero) > > > > > > So without MMY at the helm the movement will be left with leaders > > who > > > either got handed the keys to the vault, like Girish, or people who > > > have been in the position of lying to people for MMY for years like > > > Bevan and Neil P. Nandkashore is much too much of an oddball IMO to > > > take over anything. The Rajas are too much like oversized > > children at > > > a silly birthday party to be leaders of anything. > > > > > > My guess is that most posters on FFL represents the future of the > > > movement. People who are just doing their own thing and not giving > > > any one guru their power. The young'uns will have to find their own > > > myths and it may be a completely different kind of leader. If I was > > > being optimistic I would say that they learned from our mistakes > > > concerning leaders. If I am being cynical I would say that some 3D > > > hologram created by a mega corporation is going to take over the lot > > > of them. It will occasionally flash them like Paris getting out of a > > > car, and keep them dazzled with BS and bluster claiming to be all > > > powerful and all knowing. At the rest home we can all sit around and > > > reminisce about how cool it was when MMY blessed our beads. > > > > Curtis! Best post I've read in ages. You nailed it brother. > > He's got that knack, don't he? >
