--- sinhlnx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --The five years was possibly influenced by Jerry
> Jarvis, since it 
> took him 5 years to reach CC (he said that's how
> long it took him) in 
> a 1967 lecture) at UCLA.
> 
> 
> - In [email protected], "Richard J.
> Williams" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > It would seem that these kinds of back-sliders
> would
> > > > at least offer a public apology and refund the
> money 
> > > > to all those poor students that they lied to
> for all 
> > > > those years. But have you seen any indication
> that the 
> > > > two Barry's, Rick, or anyone else are
> considering giving 
> > > > a refund on a broken promise? I haven't -
> maybe I missed 
> > > >
> > > > I mean, if these kinds of people believe in
> karma,
> > > > they are surely going to hell for a long time
> for 
> > > > supporting and diseminating a dangerous cult
> and 
> > > > taking money from the poor.
> > > >
> > > Don't be silly. Why would you "go to hell" for
> > > engaging in activity that, at the time, seemed
> > > perfectly reasonable and in fact was quite good.
> 
> > >
> > There's nothing good about the intention to tell
> people
> > that they would reach enlightenment in 5-7 years,
> when
> > any intelligent person would know that's not going
> to happen.
> > You're not going to get any more enlightenment
> than you 
> > are going to get, is the truth.
> > 
> > > It is only in hindsight that our take on a
> situation is
> > > different. If the intent was good, and I'm sure
> it was
> > > with both Rick, Curtis (both whom I know
> personally) and 
> > > the two Barrys no "bad" karma can be generated.
> It's all 
> > > in the intent.
> > > 
> > So, I didn't miss your apology.
> > 
> > You mislead the poor people when you promised them
> 
> > enlightenment in 5-7 years, so just return their
> money, 
> > and say you're sorry. You did keep a list of their
> names, 
> > right? 
> > 
> > You keep a list of your current patient's names
> and you'd 
> > refund their money if you told them some crap
> about 
> > repeating the nick-names of the Hindu demi-Gods to
> avoid
> > neurosis, right?
> > 
> > But, why should anyone believe a thing you have to
> say 
> > now after misleading them for all those years -
> that's 
> > the question you didn't answer.

Richard, i don't know where to even start to respond
to you....



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