--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, you guys leave Curtis alone. We hungout together > at MIU and he's quite "otay" in my book. If you > personally knew Curtis there's no way in the world you > guys would attack him or attempt to demean him. He's > one of the good guys. He really is. I could give a > rat's ass what the difference is between his take on > the TMO/MMY, etc. and what my take is. Who cares. I > could care less if he tried to deprogram me as I came > out of the dome. What would it matter. We could talk > about it over chapatis and tastey dahl, yum!
Although I didn't hang out with him, I knew Curtis back then as well. He's a totally harmless creature with a sweet disposition. > > --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I will address this to judyjim who seem to have > > formed a symbiotic > > entity of malice toward me personally. > > > > From the ages of 16 through 31 I explored the > > teachings of MMY. I did > > it with the enthusiasm and commitment that I needed > > to experience the > > states of mind his programs bring. At age 31 I > > began a process of > > re-evaluating my experiences from outside MMY's > > system and found those > > explanations to be more useful to me, and to my mind > > more truthful. > > In other words, I changed my mind due to new > > information and > > perspectives as I grew up. It was a long process > > and came at a cost, > > but it was worth it. As I have said many times, I do > > not regret my > > experiences with MMY's teachings. I gained all > > sorts of value from > > those years. But I also look at the movement and > > its leader's > > self-importance as ridiculous and a good subject for > > humor. > > > > Judyjim have presented a criticism of my total > > commitment and sincere > > efforts when I was a part of organization a few > > times here, as if > > following MMY's strictest programs, sidhaland and > > MIU was a personal > > failure of mine. They also point to my willingness > > to share my new > > perspective with those who were interested as if > > this too reveals a > > defect in my character. > > > > The attempt to paint my life as "troubled" because I > > was sincerely > > focused on MMY's teachings for 15 years, and since > > 1989 have > > expressed another point of view on his teaching, is > > lame. Rather then > > discussing ideas, it is the last resort to attempt > > to attack the > > person rather than an argument. It is the lowest > > form of discourse. > > It takes neither imagination or intellectual > > insight. > > > > To Judy: You have brought up the idea that when I > > fight back when > > personally attacked here, it is a flaw in my "nice > > guy image". This > > is a contrivance of your own invention. I am not a > > nice guy to people > > who attack me. I fight back when I feel it is > > appropriate. I am nice > > to people who treat me with respect and have the > > ability to discuss > > ideas without making it a personal attack. I will > > always point out > > when a person is being rude to me or attacking me > > personally. Your > > continued hostility towards me personally speaks for > > itself about your > > personal values. I do not share them. > > > > To Jim: If you can search on my name you can search > > what ad hominem > > attacks are. Your use of them undermines any hope > > you may have as > > coming across as a thoughtful advocate of your point > > of view. > > > > My point of view is based on my perspective that MMY > > is incorrect in > > his understanding of human consciousness. My POV is > > a positive step > > for me in understanding my life and my experiences > > in the movement. > > For the people here who are able to discuss our > > various perspectives, > > where we differ, and where we agree, I am extremely > > grateful. Posting > > here has been a valuable asset to the evolution of > > my perspective and > > thoughts concerning MMY among other parts of life. > > Some of you have > > shared my intense interest in MMY's teachings to the > > point of pursuing > > it fulltime. You are the people I relate to best > > here. If MMY was > > correct in his understanding of human consciousness, > > this total > > commitment to achieving his goals is the most > > rational thing for a > > person to do. Likewise, if we have decided that it > > no longer suited > > our needs, it is also rational to express our > > growing understanding > > assisted by other teachers, and our own personal > > thinking. There are > > many on this group who discuss ideas in this > > mutually respectful way. > > It is a fantastic intellectual resource. That is > > why I post here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
