--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > At least for any length of time, my guess is 
> > that after many years of this unnatural behavior 
> > many of these Siddhas will actually have damaged 
> > their knees. It's not that I don't believe that 
> > Yogic flying is possible, only that in the past 
> > (in yogis and saints) it probably occurred 
> > spontaneously and not after years and years of 
> > 'unnatural' hopping.
> > 
> Well, Billy, a friend of mine used to practice 
> karate kicks and punches. For a couple of years 
> he would habitually use a little bag filled with 
> walnuts to punch at with his fists. Unfortunately, 
> his knucles are got pretty much damaged and with 
> the onset of arthritis he doesn't do that much 
> anymore. I'd say that it would probably be best 
> to practice a more gentle form of hatha yoga and 
> avoid this kind of damage to the joints. I've 
> found that some asanas and walking serve this 
> purpose quite well. Also, aqua therapy might be 
> a good idea - you can levitate and fly around 
> in water pool without much effort. There's no 
> reason to bounce on foam all the time - in fact, 
> at Radiance, the home of the Superradiance Dome, 
> we have a nice swimming pool with a view.
> 
> > In the other documented cases where levitation 
> > was established my impression was that the 
> > individuals were highly developed spiritually;
> > I don't get that impression from your average 
> > siddha.
> >
> There are average siddhas out in Pacific Palisades?
> 
> Apparently Simon the Magus practiced a form of yogic 
> flying - he crashed to the ground in the Forum and 
> may have bounced into a marble step breaking his legs 
> and then the people stoned him when he tried to 
> crawl away - I don't have all the details of this 
> incident yet.
>  
> There is an event in Buddhist literature where 
> Shakya the Muni, who is reported to have had a 
> bad back, once flew up into the air underneath a 
> Gandamba tree in downtown Sravasti and really 
> impressed the local population to no end. Gautama 
> lived to be over eighty years of age, so go figure.
> 
> > And to suggest that a little bubbling bliss is 
> > the equavalent of operating from the level of 
> > all the laws of nature to me is totally nuts but 
> > is another discussion.
> >
> Maybe so, but we could discuss how you reached 
> enlightenment in 5-7 years with TM.
> 
> > It would be interesting to see if any siddhas 
> > have already damaged parts of their body...
> >
> Interesting to whom?
>

Ha, ha..nice reply. Well, it would be interesting to everybody
involved including MMY I would hope! In the almost 40 years of TM the
best I can say is I experienced about one second of total pure
*conscious* bliss, but that will set you up for the rest of your life. :-)

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