To Billy G.

Several years ago, when Deepak Chopra was with the TM Movement, he 
explained that the person in cosmic consciousness or at higher levels 
of consciousness recognizes that the phenomenal existence and one's 
Self is the same.  That is, he or she can say that a tree in the park 
is really one's own Self.

>From this analogy, we can understand why MMY has proclaimed that it 
is possible to realize heaven here on earth, or change the progress 
of time.  These are bold words, and for most people appear 
impossible.  

As an extension of Chopra's analogy, we can say that if one has not 
reached cosmic consciousness, then the phenomenal world is an 
illusion or Maya due to the effects of the gunas.

In the Judeo-Christian tradition, the effects of Maya is similar to 
the myth of Eden, where humans have lost the capacity to enjoy divine 
existence while here on Earth due to the error (sin) of Adam and 
Eve.  

I believe the error was that they as humans assumed Knowledge can be 
obtained through the senses and phenomenal existence alone.  In other 
words, they thought they were gods.

Regards,

John R.








--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
> <willytex@> wrote:
> >
> >snip
> >The
> > word transcendental in the Upanishads means "beyond the 
> > material world".
> >snip
> 
> An Important point often lost in TM circles...when we 'transcend' 
we 
> first achieve awareness of the SELF which is the anandamaya kosha 
> (bliss/ananda covering/kosha), which is still the material world or 
> part of the three worlds (high causal). 
> 
> Once we transcend that, we realize the immanent (omnipresent and 
the 
> spiritual foundation of the material world but still manifest) 
> Purusha 
> or Soul of the Personal God, MMY's God Consciousness.
> 
> After we realize the immanent Purusha, (GC) the "all pervading 
> Brahma" 
> or whatever you wish to call it (Krishna, Christ, Buddhic, etc.) 
THEN 
> we transcend that and achieve the Nirvana or the Absolute Brahman 
> *Unmanifest*.
> 
> Three levels of unfoldment..."and NO man cometh unto the Father 
> (Brahman) except thru me", which is the God consciousness 
foundation 
> of the 
> *material* universe as distinct from Brahman the *unmanifest* 
> foundation of ALL 
> Universes!
> 
> MMY defines the transcendent as beyond the three worlds (physical, 
> astral causal). Remember there is the jiva/individual soul, the 
> greater 
> jiva (or soul of the material world, Brahman's reflection in matter 
> limited by time and space, the personal God consciousness) or the 
> Atman, 
> and then finally there is *unmanifest* Brahman the foundation of 
all 
> worlds.
>


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