"'So both diversification and unification ... when the two come to awareness then the hiding, the cover, also comes to awareness. So the cover is uncovered." This is the mechanics of how we get suffering and the elimination of suffering. But suffering still dominates in the Relative, like a flowing river; the elimination of suffering is by contrast a drop by drop process, so on balance venturing into the Relative is utter stupidity. There is something rather perverse in the idea that you have unity, diversity and the COVERING in the first place. Why not unity, diversity and total CLARITY instead? That way unity is never lost whatever the experience in the relative, bliss overriding any possibility of suffering, and thus all would be well. The cover that needs uncovering is the ROOT of suffering and it has nothing to do with our own karma after all!! It is a flaw in Unity.. right?
You say ignorance is part of totality - but totality INCLUDES non- ignorance which you would expect to OVERWHELM ignorance. Whereas the experience of Nature - apart from a few fortunate individuals here and there - is that non-ignorance has the upper hand. If the INTENTION is to expand happiness via the Relative these mechanics simply insure that the outcome inevitably is a FAILURE!! One has to question, therefore, the intelligence or sanity at the root of creation.. --- In [email protected], "george_deforest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > claudiouk wrote: > > > > "constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance" > > might imply therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? > > Never saw the sense of the purpose of life as > > "expansion of happiness" by going into ignorance.. > > if the happiness is in the return to Unity, > > why wander off in the first place?? > > Maharishi discusses this very point (abstractly) in his > recent commentary on the cognition of Madhuchandas: > > 'Immediately what Madhuchandas saw when he saw -- one is two. > What he saw? One is not only two, but there is a third element. > What came to the sight of Madhuchandas? He saw something that was > hidden from view. The two were hidden from view. They were existing > in the 'A', in the flow, but not known. > > 'Now he saw silence and dynamism at the same time. At the same time > he saw the third value which was hiding 'I' from 'A', and hiding > 'A' from 'I' -- those two values, silence and dynamism. > One was hiding the other. > > 'So when he saw 'I' is unfolding 'A', bringing 'A' to consciousness, > to awareness, so 'A' comes to awareness which was hidden so far, > and 'I' comes to awareness which was hidden so far. So when the two > come to awareness then the hiding, the cover also comes to awareness. > So the cover is uncovered. > > 'So he saw not only silence and dynamism but he saw that the covering > of silence and dynamism is over, so the third element he also saw. > He saw the Chandas. So Rishi, Devata, and Chandas. 'A' stands as > a unified wholeness of Rishi, Devata, Chandas. > > 'This is how step by step, through sequential steps, unfoldment of > diversity commences ... > > > 'To know what variety is, we have to know Unity and we have to know > how Unity is composed as Unity of many values, and that we know when > we are able to take out the units of variety and put them back in > Unity again. > > 'So both diversification and unification ... > > > selections snipped from "First Seer of the Veda" at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/138961 >
