TurquoiseB wrote:
> Back in the trashbin you go. 
>
Oh, my God! Barry put Jim back in the trashbin.

> > > That occured to me when writing it up. The exact
> > > *same* story can be pointed to by God freaks
> > 
> > Where did that term come from? Is that the opposite 
> > of atheist freaks? 
> >
> Yes, and it's totally innocuous. It's a lingering
> Sixties-ism in my speech. So far on FFL I have used
> the term dozens of times, in contexts such as 
> "enlightenment freak" and "Bruce Cockburn freak" or 
> "music freak" (both referring to myself), or "neat 
> freak," or "Mongo freak" (referring to fans of a 
> certain short fictional detective). It's a slang
> way of referring to the odd things that some people
> get off on. It has no negative connotations, except,
> seemingly, in your mind.
> 
> > And what's a God freak anyway? I think the term 
> > "freak" is possibly reserved for those pushing an 
> > agenda, as it appears you are doing now, my dear 
> > Buddhist atheist. 
> 
> Jim, since you stopped actively slamming me, I've 
> taken a chance and replied to a few of your posts 
> as if you were an adult, and as if you were actually 
> a rational human being. My mistake. Back in the 
> trashbin you go. 
> 
> Someday (in my opinion) you should try a little
> introspection and try to view yourself as others
> see you, not as you like to see yourself. First
> you react to me suggesting that Guru Dev would 
> be shocked to hear himself referred to as "His
> Divinity" by his followers as if what I said was
> some kind of an insult.
> 
> It was intended to be a *compliment*, dude. The
> term used to "honor" him by some...uh...Guru Dev
> freaks IMO *belittles* him, *belittles* a teacher 
> of enlightenment, and *belittles* the whole process 
> of enlightenment in my opinion, and that was what 
> I intended to convey. But you perceived it as some 
> kind of insult, and reacted as if you *personally* 
> had been insulted. That's YOUR problem, dude, not 
> mine.
> 
> And now you take offense at a simple Sixties-ism,
> get all huffy and offended, and start hurling
> terms like "atheist" and "Buddhist" as if *they*
> were insults. Can't you *feel* the emotional
> loading that *you* place on such terms? I sure 
> can, and I'd be willing to bet a few others on 
> this forum have developed their intuition to the
> point that they can feel it, too.
> 
> So back in the trashbin with you, dude. It's
> not worth trying to communicate with you if 
> you're going to be so cluelessly reactive here.
> 
> For the record, I don't care what other people
> believe, about God or about Guru Dev. I'm just
> trippin' on language, and occasionally pointing
> out when people make statements or ask questions
> based on *assumptions*. Their entire followup
> statement or question is based on *accepting*
> the assumption as true; otherwise the followup
> statement or question has no meaning. To react
> to the statement or to answer the question, one
> has to *accept* the assumption as true. Some of
> us don't accept those assumptions, is all. My
> "agenda" is merely to point out these assumptions
> when they occur, which is clearly in the spirit
> defined for this group on its main page.
> 
> The vast majority of people on this planet 
> believe in God, so much so that it has become
> a never-challenged assumption on their part.
> Some of *them* react strongly when someone 
> points out the fact that it *is* an assumption,
> and a completely unproven assumption at that.
> It seems to me that this is what's going on
> here with your response. Despite your claim,
> you *are* "trying to start something." Instead,
> by acting like a petulant child, you have 
> ended something instead, my experiment in
> seeing if you could have a rational conver-
> sation without...uh...freaking out when you
> encounter ideas that differ from yours. 
> 
> I wish you the best of luck with your life and
> your beliefs. May they both make you very happy.
> But dude...I'm just TIRED of all the prepubes-
> cent arguing here, and want to spend what little
> time I spend here talking with adults who can
> treat ideas that differ from their own ideas
> as Just Ideas, not some kind of attack. You
> don't seem to be one of those people.
>


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