--- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of off_world_beings
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion
that we
> engage in a discussion about the movement
> 
>  
> 
> Lol, the guy is right Rick. You are already set in your conclusions, 
> and have fundamentalist beliefs based on heresay and gossip. Your 
> letter to him shows a complete stagnancy of thinking on the topic. 
> That does not mean the other side is not the same. It could be. 
> But your problem is this Rick. Research published in peer-reviewed 
> scientific journals, decade after decade, wins hands down over 
> gossip and ill-supported conspiracy theories. Good luck wit' that 
> bud.
> 
> What's with this journal obsession? I have no problem with the
research. It
> shows TM is effective and many ways. I don't dispute that. What I do
is take
> ALL available information, throw it in the pot, and try to make a
palatable
> stew of it. The more controversial things I have come to believe,
based on
> evidence I find credible, do not negate the many positive things
about TM,
> MMY, etc. For me, reconciling them just presents an interesting
challenge.
>
First of all scientific research doesn't prove anything about TM, with
the possible exception that it's good for high blood pressure.  MUM
faculty crank out lots of studies and a few of them get into 3rd tier
journals, but that's just the start of the scientific process not the
conclusion as the TMO likes to portray - you need replication after
replication by independent people in controlled settings. The most
prestigious journals to run TM research was with Wallace's early
research ("rest twice as deep as sleep" nonsense) and that's been
discredited now - though I'm not saying that work was not useful,
that's how the scientific process unfolds, you start with a study,
find its flaws and continually refine the process and the truth.  A
real good objective scientist would look at tm research and say it
looks promising for stress related conditions, but that's about it
right now.  Unfortunately the more culty the tmo gets, the less real
scientists want to try to replicate tmo work.

But that's not the point or the topic.  The TMO and MMY are not about
teaching TM anymore.  They're about sidhis and large groups of sidhas,
Vedas, invincibility, immortality, pundits and yagyas to create
perfect everything, billions of dollars to do the above, and most
importantly that belief that MMY is (to paraphrase one of Rick's
antagonists) above human status and the greatest rishi to have ever
lived, with the resulting tmo strictly enforced belief that everything
he does and says is not to be questioned or else that's a sign of your
biased KKK like belief system.  

I don't recalled any scientific research published on any of the above
topics which are the real focus of the "fringe" fairfield tmers
(fringe meaning about 85%).  To bring up the zombie-like phrase of
100s of studies blah blah blah in response to questions about the
operations of the tmo and MMY is irrelevant.

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