new morning wrote:
> You are missing my point. 
>
It's not a stretch of the imagination to believe that Mia
tried to jumb Marshy's bones in the cave that night. She has
a record of attempting to seduce older men with power, Frank
before Marshy, and Woody after. Robert Gimbel also pointed
this out.

And it's not a stretch of the imagination to believe that
John Lennon did drugs at the Rishikesh TTC. Robert also
pointed out that Magic Alex was smuggling in drugs of all
kinds. Are we to assume that the drugs were for Cynthia or 
Jane Asher? I think not. 

And it is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that
the Marshy kicked the Beatles out of the Rishikesh TTC.
The way John left in such a huff has all the earmarks of a 
drug-induced, paranoid freakout of someone who is stoned
out of his mind on LSD or some other substance.

Are we to believe that John or Paul objected to a rumor cast 
about by Magic Alex that Marshy had a tumble with a nurse? 
Now that's a stretch! John Lennon most likely couldn't wait
to get back to his London digs and his stash and Paul would
hardly be a candidate for moral outrage since he was sleeping
with Jane in front of the conservative crew headed by Nancy
de Herrerra.

However, it is a stretch of the imagination to believe that
Marshy, who was celibate up until age 50, would succumb to
carnal temptations for a year or so, then go back to being
celibate for the next forty years. This was pointed out by
Lawson English on more than one occasion. 

It's also a pretty big stretch of the imagination to believe 
that Marshy would be attracted to any skinny, white bliss-ninny 
at 3:00 AM in the middle of the night at a yoga camp with a 
skin-boy crouching outside the door.

But if so, so what, according to Curtis.

It is also a stretch of the imagination to believe that the
Marshy was able to pull this off in front of Mother Olsen,
Debbie Jarvis and Ms Pittman. I just don't see how the Marshy
could have done this with thousands of people walking in and 
out of his bedroom on a daily basis.

But IT IS NOT a stretch of the imagination to believe that 
some women, seeking power and TMO status, would want to seduce
the Marshy. Curtis and Ned have already admitted that one of
the primary reasons they attended these TTCs was to get women
into bed. I've posted an excerpt from Ned's book which is a 
clear example of this.

But, MY point is that either way, there are some who owe us 
all an explanation. These events, and the TTC's in Spain and
Switzerland, happpened a long time ago, back in the late '60s
and early '70s. If it's true about Marshy having sexual
relations with female students way back then, why weren't 
were warned about this a long time ago? 

Instead, we have Governors and Ministers, who mixed up and 
served the kool-aid, still not coming clean to this very day.
For example, Tom Anderson, who claims to have been Marshy's
personal secretary at Majorrca TTC, worked for Marshy for
over three years and in over a hundred derogatory posts to
Usenet over a period of years, never once mentioned this, and
Tom is obviously not a great admirer of the Marshy!

It seems to me, that if someone is going to put Marshy
on the same level as Da, Sai Baba, Swami Rama, and Fred Lentz, 
they should at least explain why they tacked up all those 
posters promising enlightenment in 5-7 years AFTER the alleged
events took place. What's up with that? 

I can understand why they wouldn't want to refund any money for
selling water down by the river, (since they are probably all 
broke now) and I can understand why they'd be defensive about 
passing out all the kool-aid, but why can't we have a little 
honesty here?

Judy apparently thinks it would be a good idea.

Some of those claiming TMO status are even using annonymous
names, so what's up with that?

Or, is it true that almost everyone here hasn't been inside a 
Marshy Golden Dome in years or that they spent all of, what, 
one minute in a one-on-one conversation with the Marshy. I'd 
be willing to believe that not a single informer on this list 
ever got within ten yards of the Marshy. Yet they would like 
everyone to think that they are some kind of expert on the
comings-and-goings of Mr. Varma, who hasn't even been seen in 
public for thirty years.

But what is most puzzling to me is why would the kool-aid
mixer put up a discussion forum to discuss spiritual subjects
and then bring it down with work-a-day gossip in emails by
the likes of Ned Wynn? Now THAT is a 'go figure'! 

And they call me a troll for bringing this up? 

At any rate, for those who are interested, here is a link 
to some of my 1,000s of 'stories' posted to Usenet since 1999. 

Enjoy. 

WARNING!!! There are some informers here who do not want you 
to read these posts, you have been warned.

Sorted by date:
http://tinyurl.com/yq8baa

Reflections on the Transcendent:
http://www.rwilliams.us/

> I did not say I beleive the above, I am simply applying the 
> logic  found in some posts, or extensions of it.
> 
> I have no (stated) opinion to be changed by reading his past 
> posts. I have read enough to draw my own (perhaps quite 
> erroneous and hollow) conclusions about them -- my own "stories".
> 
> And that you cannot gladly and eagerly hold in your mind the
> contradictions between your view of truth and Richard's 
> implies you are like "totally not spiritual" :) (All 
> contradictions being like really spiritual. Haven't you even 
> read Jaiami dude!?) :)
>

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