--- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello group, > > Since being in touch with Rick lately, I followed 2 threads- is that > what you call them? I read all the comments about Guru Dev's deathbed > instructions, and also comments about Maharishi's latest comments > about being caged in when not being in a proper vastu. > > I am not claiming to be up on all current events for what takes place > in the movement, and therefore my assessment can be off, but there was > very little inquiry about Maharishsi saying he was caged in. When I > read this, I thought what I think almost everyone would think- we know > from Tm and otherwise that with this state of enlightenment, nothing > cages in that consciousness- and actually, then enlightened tell you > that this is what they are, consciousness, and caution the disciples - > do not think of the Guru as persona. > > There was at least one comment here in the group, and the question was > posed- what sort of fragile state of enlightenment is this that is > dependent on a house for illumination? > > My angle I am coming at it with is that I am with another Guru, the > advancement in consciousness that came about was very quick, then I > knew this new existence was always possible, and it is directly > related to methodologies used and grace of Guru. And then general > comments from my Guru is a Guru can only take you as far as they are. > > So, in the angle I am coming from, it is not just this comment from > Maharishi, it is the overall situation of what unfolded- it is like an > added piece to the puzzle when I read these comments. > > Regarding the deathbed instructions from Guru Dev, firstly all that > has been said by my Guru has been straight truth, not sugar coated. > Confusion is simply not there because the Guru is right there to clear > the air. My findings is that all has been truthful, therefore what is > said is reliable and honest, no reason not to believe it. > > In the case of this situation with Maharishi, and the deathbed > instructions, I am simply no longer used to speculating about what > happened because in my camp here, I pick up the phone, or send an > email and the reliable answer is there in 5 minutes. > > Maharishi is in form at present- this question seemingly cant even be > asked and even if it were, it doesn't seem the air would be all > cleared up anyway. > > So, I can join right in with the speculators and guess that Dr. > Varma's comments were not accurate. I heard the same story that many > did from Maharishi which puts it at Maharishi being a self appointed > Guru, I guess similar as Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. > > Coming from my Guru, it was said there is a tradition where a Guru was > appointed Guru by their Guru. Furthermore, Maharishi did not take full > Sanyas vows, or full vows within the tradition of GuruDev. Maybe he > was a secretary? It is not normal for a Guru to entrust the innermost > knowledge to a secretary. My Guru said that in her case, there is one > being groomed now for this position, but this is one that has taken > sanyas and it simply is a flow that this person is selected. My Gurus > general comments are this is how a Guru is appointed, not by wanting > to be Guru or declaring ones self to be one. > > My Guru started a TM yahoo discussion group, there are already some > posts up about this subject: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or try this: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TM_Discussion/?yguid=228252276 > > My Guru is from the same tradition as TM's Guru Dev. > > Ron
Your guru ends the message of trying to draw Maharishi down into the mud with: "I WELCOME YOU ALL WITH GREAT LOVE AND RESPECT." What a joke...
