--- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote:


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> > My meditater wife has also seen Guru Dev's expression change in a
> > photo we have of him, AND spoken [telepathically] with him - and she's
> > only been meditating for about 6 months. We've been married for over
> > six years and she's been too skeptical about TM to do it until about 6
> > months ago when she finally agreed to try it. She loves it.
> 
> Though it may have significant personal meaning for a devotee to feel
> the presence of a guru in a photo or in contact with them on the
> subtle level, I'm not sure it proves anything objectively.  There are
> tens of millions of people in the US, including our president, who
> feel Jesus talks to them personally.  Does that mean Jesus is living
> up in a christian heaven overseeing the Iraq War among other things?


Attempting to equate my direct experiences and the experiences of
others with Guru Dev to your description above, is more than lacking -
particularly after the evidences I've given in the post, from TTC
instruction, Brahmachari Sattyanand, other initiators and TMers and
from Guru Dev himself according to his biography.

I'm very familiar with what extremist Christians actually experience
and don't experience, having lived among them for some time. There is
NO comparison - just as there is no comparison between experiencing
contemporary Christianity and experiencing the legitimate practice of TM.







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