> >> > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Loving what *IS* may be different than loving what is -
--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > Yes, what appears to be the remnants of dualism. I'm finding as we > > inquire into and integrate our self-righteously scripted reactions > > around warmongers, liars, false gurus, misusers of power, etc. ("I'm > > better than so-and-so!") we see that after all we have been indulging > > in the false-intellect, and have only been projecting our own dramas > > onto the Emptiful perfection, withholding our all-inclusive Love and > > superimposing an illusory snake upon an innocent string, and here and > > now find that what had appeared to be "sin" only IS IS, indescribable, > > radiantly beautiful, a perfect reflection of the Self -- as it has > > always been! --- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There may be some self righteousness and feeling of "I'm better than" > behind perceptions of false gurus and manipulators of power, and those > feelings should be addressed which may alter the subtle feelings > around those perceptions and how they're expressed, but I don't think > that spiritual growth towards unity eliminates the ability to makes > those distinctions between truth and falsehood, in fact it seems to me > that that ability to discriminate becomes clearer. IE I dont think > discrimination per se must be based on some underlying drama or > judgment that needs to be eliminated. Yes, I find that we don't lose discrimination, we actually gain more discrimination, allowing the intellect to regain its innocent transparency: we can acknowledge and move beyond each pain- engendering story entirely by inquiring into its absolute truth, acknowledging how it feels in the body, entertaining the feel of the story's absence, and playing with turn-arounds to the story, recognizing it's always deep-down about *us*. > Does rory feel that his seeing swami g as still stuck in "remnants of > dualism" or other people stuck fully in dualism is a perception based > on some underlying drama of his? Yes! There are no other people -- that's why I said "as WE inquire..." And absolutely, there are portions, particles, of me that are still working this stuff out; we are constantly cycling through our stories and returning again and again to the primordial innocence. That's the fun of it! I like to say, it's not the stories that cause the problem; it's *believing that the stories are real*. This place is a phenomenal playground -- *anything we think, we manifest!* What a treat! What an absolute Grace-gift! Be God for a day! Multidimensional, multisensory Creation! It's just that we've lost touch with how to operate the system, have forgotten how it works or even that it works and are unconsciously misusing our manifesting, having lost touch with our innocent divine-ordinariness and thinking ourselves the victim of someone else's play, of someone else's stories. There was a great original Star Trek episode that evoked this Understanding very neatly -- the crew went down to a planet that instantly manifested all their thoughts, and they were plagued with their own monstrous nightmares until they figured out the nature of the planet -- whereupon they left, realizing they could return when they had become more mature and learned how to think more consciously. Well, that's Earth! Discrimination allows us to understand clearly it is all ourSelf playing with itSelf, telling stories about ourSelf, whereupon we cease to believe the stories and the suffering evaporates. The only reason I use the typewriter at all to express my thoughts is, I sometimes find that it appears to wake up *more* of my particles, enlivening *more* of mySelf than if I don't! In other words, it's fun! :-) *L*L*L*
