--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What I was getting from Ron and Swami G's comments was that since  
> Mahesh could not be initiated as a swami--as Sw. G sees it from
> her  direct experience being in that living tradition

Au contraire, she claimed (incorrectly) that he
*could* have been:

"He may claim to be a part of these traditions but no way
is he initiated into it. And once again let it be reminded
that the Math in the North is that of Giri. He most certainly
could have become an full initiate."

This was quoted in the post to which you were
replying, Vaj. Wonder how you missed it and
decided she had said exactly the opposite?

> --he would not be  
> able to be initiated into the secrets of the tradition.

> Nonetheless he acts as if he was initated by SBS into the 
> tradition.

In your *opinion* that is how he acts. But has
he ever actually made the claim?

> If he didn't  
> have the inside scoop on the tradition, he couldn't teach it
> nor could he be a line-holder. Therefore the story that TM
> was received from SBS is patently false. This is not to say
> that Mahesh or the TMO has not him-hawed around how and where
> TM came from: one hears different stories as to specifics.

But not from MMY himself.

 But essentially one is left to  
> conclude it's not a lineal transmission and there's some story- 
> telling going on from Mr. Varma.

Such as?

> I should further add that the appellation "yogi" added
> to his name is also claimed to be false by one of his
> guru-bhais.

This anonymous person claims MMY is not a practitioner
of yoga?


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