--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > So, it basically boils down to one guru who isn't qualified to be a > > > guru lashing out at another guru because he isn't qualified to be a > > > guru. Indian spiritual politics... gotta love it! > > > > > > > Are we about to step into nonsense here because if so it is going to > > be very short lived from this side. > > > > Go ahead and list the basis for claim that Swami G is not a Guru if > > you like, then maybe there will be a response. Keep in mind my comment > > in an earlier post, if it is thought that a post coming from Swami G > > will be of no value, most likely there is not going to be one. I > > haven't seen it happen too often but I have seen it. > > > > You can see Swami G tell of her journey and how it is that she became > > a Guru in one of the 13 youtube videos under the search of Guruswamig > > > Your guru comes off to me like any other common person who has their > own opinions. In the video I saw of her, she seems like any regular > woman who attended some metaphysical classes and offers her point of > view. In my view, she appears to offer absolutely nothing in her own > persona, of spiritual substance that is impressive or appealing. > Maharishi, whether he has certain initiations or not, has a much > greater energy presence than your guru. Guru Dev [Swami Brahmananda > Saraswati] far surpasses them both. This is just my view.
How long have you lived with any of the 3 Gurus that you just mentioned? I lived day and night with SwamiG, not the other 2. An instant transmission occured and kundalini awakened within a few days of being around Swami G, as she said it would. The first problem in understanding my coment so far is that an awakened kundalini is only understood by either those in the midst of the kundalini awakening or a Sat Guru that is familiar with it. Swami G explains that Realization is never what you thought it was, once it is known. Swami G explains it is normal existence, and that is what you see in the persona when you are around her. This is why I said to Swami G that most are not going to get past the personality. As I have said, if the kundalini awakens as it has for me, and really as all sadakas would want if they knew what it was, then in viewing the Guru or anything from that platform, it is enough of an anchor to fathom Swami G's caution to view the Sat Guru as consciousness and not the persona. While the videos of Guru dev look wonderfull and similar to how it would look for any Shankaracharia, with those surrounding him paying this respect and formailities, and while Maharihsi has this certain personality and actions of a pheniminal businessman, author, and lots of other things, I see from the platform here what is possible to happen along the journey, and it simply is not taking place in TM as it is here, and in other paths where the Sat Guru is working one to one with the sadakas. So, the personalities and transcient capabilities are not the deciding factor in who is or is not a Sat Guru, and what results will come about for the sadakas. I can make a long list of what is not here in this path in the transcient areas, no ashram, no security gaurds, no limosines, no promotors, no video production, no million dollar courses, no celebrity followings, few sadakas, no articles in news papers or TV. What is here is a Sat Guru and one willing from compassion to work one to one with sadakas. If I told you to phone your Guru up to clear up the confusion, if you can, then we are at the start of something that may be good. Swami G said what value is a Guru if the sadakas are left in confussion? If you want to consider personalities, then would it make any difference to you which Guru is worthwhile if the sadakas are in confusion or not? Even if I consider your angle, I will go with the Guru whose sadakas are in clarity and not confusion, you can pick your Guru based on the charisma and charm they have if you like. Swami G is not going to hand out ego candy and sweeten over what needs to be said to the sadakas as opposed to telling them what they want to hear. > > Further, I don't think one can rely merely on what badges the boy > scout [or girl scout] has acquired or claims, but rather on his > character and the quality of the work he accomplishes. > First step is see what peace comes about under the guidance of the Guru you are under. Swami G's General comments are that until one is realized, you are not going to save the world. One who can't even save himself is going to save the world?
