Turq, It seems to me that this list is a hodge-podge of hazy > "spiritual" phenomena designed to make people who read > it feel "special," because they have almost by definition > experienced several of them. Having been told that they > are "special" and "on the path" for having had one or > more of these experiences, they are supposed to be > attracted to her and eventually want to follow the > person who has recognized their "specialness" (event- > ually, of course, "donating" to her livelihood while > doing so) so that they can be told on a regular basis > how "special" they are.
Totally nailed that one! I've reached my limit with the Sycophants-R-Us show. Thanks for telling it like it is brother. (From the specialness list) Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or swaying. I am sooooo going to up my show fees! Plus I can upgrade from "dirty old man" to "tantric guru". --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:01 PM, qntmpkt wrote: > > > > > > > ---G's symptoms of being "on the path": > > > > Blue Light > > > > Seeing of Auras > > > > Heat up the Spine (can be extreme) > > > > Cold feeling flooding a chakra area > > > > Feeling the Nervous System is short-circuiting (can be extreme) > > > > Pulsing Energy at the Base of the Spine (can be painful) > > > > Red Flame Pattern over Heart Chakra Area > > > > Sounds internally heard: > > > > 1. Birds > > > > 2. like a train sound > > > > 3. Bells > > > > 3. A hissing or whistling sound > > > > 4. Someone quickly saying something in your ear (like Ha) > > > > Extreme Sensitivity to Sound, Vibration Etc... > > > > Siddhis such as complete knowledge on energy work > > > > Feeling what is happening in someone else's body > > > > Picking up others emotions > > > > Normal photographs that pick-up light phenomenon and mists etc. > > > > Body awareness changes - feeling larger - feeling smaller > > > > Feeling as if you are here and not here > > > > An absolute absence of thought > > > > Bliss > > > > Extreme Fear (note :this one is temporary) > > > > Dreams of Snakes and Fires > > > > Dreams of - religious and spiritual symbology > > > > Samadhi states of Feeling Utterly connected with ALL - yet also > > > > witnessing and not involved... > > > > Finding the consciousness expanding to where you are not in the > > > > body.. (example seeing over the trees while you are at ground > > > > level) > > > > Mudras (hand gestures ) spontaneously happen > > > > Asanas (body postures) spontaneously happen > > > > Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or > > > > swaying > > > > Feeling as if you are in a strong earthquake > > > > Ability to manifest what is needed - once again a siddhi but do > > > > not attach to these phenomena, let them go.... > > > > Seeing of internal lights (flashing lights in vision.... > > > > rotating > > > > light) > > > > Seeing the world in enhanced coloration > > > > Yawning - Laughing - Crying > > > > > > That's just cultural baggage quant, we should just ignore it. ;-) > > > > > > Nice list actually! > > > > Nice list, indeed. But those things can be experienced without > > the need for self-proclaimed satgurus appealing to the authority > > of lineages and whatnot. Hell, some of those things could be > > experienced by eating a couple large slices of chocolate cake > > before bedtime. > > Not to mention just being human and living in our times. > > For example, the first one, seeing Blue Light. By this > criterion, everyone who has ever taken Viagra is "on > the path." :-) > > It seems to me that this list is a hodge-podge of hazy > "spiritual" phenomena designed to make people who read > it feel "special," because they have almost by definition > experienced several of them. Having been told that they > are "special" and "on the path" for having had one or > more of these experiences, they are supposed to be > attracted to her and eventually want to follow the > person who has recognized their "specialness" (event- > ually, of course, "donating" to her livelihood while > doing so) so that they can be told on a regular basis > how "special" they are. > > I'm trying not to badrap gurus here, but this act of > cruising the Internet spiritual newsgroups looking for > long-distance followers to pay for her life and basic- > ally worship her doesn't really do it for me. There are > a *lot* of people out there who are not satisfied with > the progress they've made along their current spiritual > path. As far as I can tell, hers is a fairly overt > attempt to pander to that unhappiness, to get the > students to blame the teacher they're currently study- > ing with for that perceived lack of progress, and to > "switch over" to a "real" teacher, namely her. > > In my book, if a teacher actually has some phwam! and is > seeking students, all they have to do is give a few talks > or write a book. To actively cruise other spiritual trad- > itions' discussion groups hoping to lure away disgruntled > seekers from those traditions is, IMO, a lazy and rather > tacky way to go about the business of attracting students. > > On the other hand, if Yawning is, as she says, a sign > of being "on the path," then I may rest easy, because > after reading each of her comments reposted here, I have > firmly established myself as being "on the path." > > That said, Ron/Tanmay and others clearly have gained > some perceived benefit from studying with her. I think > that's neat for them and I wish them well on their path. > I'm just making the point that the "sales strategy" for > this particular path has pretty much insured that it > will never be mine. >
