--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:01 PM, qntmpkt wrote: > > > > > ---G's symptoms of being "on the path": > > > Blue Light > > > Seeing of Auras > > > Heat up the Spine (can be extreme) > > > Cold feeling flooding a chakra area > > > Feeling the Nervous System is short-circuiting (can be extreme) > > > Pulsing Energy at the Base of the Spine (can be painful) > > > Red Flame Pattern over Heart Chakra Area > > > Sounds internally heard: > > > 1. Birds > > > 2. like a train sound > > > 3. Bells > > > 3. A hissing or whistling sound > > > 4. Someone quickly saying something in your ear (like Ha) > > > Extreme Sensitivity to Sound, Vibration Etc... > > > Siddhis such as complete knowledge on energy work > > > Feeling what is happening in someone else's body > > > Picking up others emotions > > > Normal photographs that pick-up light phenomenon and mists etc. > > > Body awareness changes - feeling larger - feeling smaller > > > Feeling as if you are here and not here > > > An absolute absence of thought > > > Bliss > > > Extreme Fear (note :this one is temporary) > > > Dreams of Snakes and Fires > > > Dreams of - religious and spiritual symbology > > > Samadhi states of Feeling Utterly connected with ALL - yet also > > > witnessing and not involved... > > > Finding the consciousness expanding to where you are not in the > > > body.. (example seeing over the trees while you are at ground > > > level) > > > Mudras (hand gestures ) spontaneously happen > > > Asanas (body postures) spontaneously happen > > > Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or > > > swaying > > > Feeling as if you are in a strong earthquake > > > Ability to manifest what is needed - once again a siddhi but do > > > not attach to these phenomena, let them go.... > > > Seeing of internal lights (flashing lights in vision.... > > > rotating > > > light) > > > Seeing the world in enhanced coloration > > > Yawning - Laughing - Crying > > > > That's just cultural baggage quant, we should just ignore it. ;-) > > > > Nice list actually! > > Nice list, indeed. But those things can be experienced without > the need for self-proclaimed satgurus appealing to the authority > of lineages and whatnot. Hell, some of those things could be > experienced by eating a couple large slices of chocolate cake > before bedtime.
Not to mention just being human and living in our times. For example, the first one, seeing Blue Light. By this criterion, everyone who has ever taken Viagra is "on the path." :-) It seems to me that this list is a hodge-podge of hazy "spiritual" phenomena designed to make people who read it feel "special," because they have almost by definition experienced several of them. Having been told that they are "special" and "on the path" for having had one or more of these experiences, they are supposed to be attracted to her and eventually want to follow the person who has recognized their "specialness" (event- ually, of course, "donating" to her livelihood while doing so) so that they can be told on a regular basis how "special" they are. I'm trying not to badrap gurus here, but this act of cruising the Internet spiritual newsgroups looking for long-distance followers to pay for her life and basic- ally worship her doesn't really do it for me. There are a *lot* of people out there who are not satisfied with the progress they've made along their current spiritual path. As far as I can tell, hers is a fairly overt attempt to pander to that unhappiness, to get the students to blame the teacher they're currently study- ing with for that perceived lack of progress, and to "switch over" to a "real" teacher, namely her. In my book, if a teacher actually has some phwam! and is seeking students, all they have to do is give a few talks or write a book. To actively cruise other spiritual trad- itions' discussion groups hoping to lure away disgruntled seekers from those traditions is, IMO, a lazy and rather tacky way to go about the business of attracting students. On the other hand, if Yawning is, as she says, a sign of being "on the path," then I may rest easy, because after reading each of her comments reposted here, I have firmly established myself as being "on the path." That said, Ron/Tanmay and others clearly have gained some perceived benefit from studying with her. I think that's neat for them and I wish them well on their path. I'm just making the point that the "sales strategy" for this particular path has pretty much insured that it will never be mine.
