--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <boo_lives@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Maharishis plans are not for 60 years this way or that way > > > > > but for at least 1000 years ahead. Those who are > > > > > sentimentally, or for other > > > > > reasons, stuck in older instructions are, well, stuck. > > > > > "The Movement belongs to those that move." > > > > > > > > It appears to me that Maharishi has established a government > > > > foundation, based on the vedic divisions of labor, for > > > > generations to come. He has established a government based on > > > > the following order of labor: brahmin, kshatriya, vaisya, > > > > and sudras. The brahmins are the teachers. The kshatriyas > > > > are the administrators. The vaisyas are the business people. > > > > The sudras are the workers. > > > > > > > > Maharishi has already established the kshatriyas by appointing > > > > the various Rajahs in various regions of the world. > > > > > > > > In short, he has revived the vedic system of governance. It > > > > would interesting to speculate as to how long this system of > > > > government will last. > > > > > > what system of government? what is being governed? people > > > who pay a million dollars get a title and a crown and the > > > right to work part time to raise more money for the mov't. > > > they're not governing anything outside of the movement. rajas > > > have a little power but most power in the tmo resides with > > > MMY relatives and the usual insiders. giving titles for money > > > began with the 108s in the early 70s and has continue in > > > various incarnations since then. the rajas will continue > > > until the next big thing and then the tmo will gradually > > > wither away after MMY dies. > > > > Perhaps, this is the reason why MMY is taking his time to > > set up the Global Country so that the government will survive > > after he dies. According to vedic literature, the vedic system > > of government is the best one among all the systems of government. > > Specifically, the vedic system should be able to select the best > > leaders who are supposed to be the most enlightened, as opposed > > to the system of government which elects those who are less > > developed in their level of consciousness. > > In other words, it's an appeal to elitism. > > "I'm more fit to lead because I'm more ______." (fill in > the blank with the claimed criterion here). > > Excuse me, but isn't this the same "claim of authority" > on which governmental systems based on royalty or heredity > is based? And on which, essentially, Bush and the pseudo- > Christian neocons base their "authority?" And on which > the Islamic fundamentalists wish to establish *their* > "heaven on Earth?" > > The caste system, no matter how you cut it, is a system > of discrimination based upon elitism and heredity. If you > are "born into" a certain caste, that and that alone > determines what you can aspire to in life, and the level > of "authority" you can possibly attain. > > Vedas, schmedas...it's the same old appeal to elitism. > "We are fit to lead because we are more ______. See? It > says so in our scriptures." > > Gag me with a spoon. > > At least Maharishi's "Global Country" is just a fiction, > a fantasy indulged in by those to whom elitism appeals > as long as they can buy their way into the "elite." I > shudder to think what would happen to the world if it > ever became a *real* system of government. On the whole, > given the excesses and the mindless, authoritarian acts > we've seen in the TMO, Bush and his neocons might be a > better option. > In my opinion, to say that the caste system, the natural dharmic order of humanity is based on elitism is like the bark of a tree, or the roots of a tree, or the leaves, refusing to play their appointed role, because they believe the structure of the tree is built on elitism. We live in a mixed caste society in the US and Europe anyway, so such a system is not likely to be established naturally any time soon.
However by bringing out and establishing however transiently such alternative systems of operation such as Maharishi has done, he challenges those who are faced with these alternative systems of operation; NLP, Country of World Peace, Vedic Civilization, Ideal Society, etc. to confront their own boundaries, and consider these radical alternatives. Maharishi's dharma is not to establish such alternative systems of social organization. Rather it is to challenge the mindsets of Turq and others, who have strong reactions to his proposals, and maybe, just maybe have them begin to think in creative ways about what makes an effective system of social organization or government work, or not, and challenge their long held beliefs and prejudices. In the posting above Turq is convinced that Vedic society can't work and possibly Bush is better. That conclusion may be accurate, or it may be wildly off the mark. The point is Maharishi has gotten Turq to pay attention to him and, for whatever reason challenge his beliefs. There is no doubt that with his genius and charisma, Maharishi could have, had it been his dharma, created a small society somewhere based on Vedic principles, that would endure. But his vision to enlighten the world calls for a different approach, the establishment sometimes briefly of alternative social and personal archetypes, to counteract those archetypes steeped in ignorance which have saturated our consciousness for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. Part of the dynamics of Maharishi's mission is seeding the collective psyche with alternatives, expanded boundaries, and just different ways of looking at things. That is the way radical visionaries always work. And he has the advantage as I mentioned before of operating on a level of subtlety so that his outward message traps and begins to transform the values of those who only appreciate the surface level of life, while enriching and deepening the scope of those willing to transcend regularly, or better yet, live established in the transcendental area of life, Being. This is one way Maharishi is transforming the world, not by establshing an alternative society with himself at the top, but by ceaselessly challenging the status quo, both inside and out. :-)
