--- But why in the world would "one" want to be internalized in a disasociative state oblivous to the outside world? The idea that such a state of Samadhi is somehow an advanced symptom of Spirituality was propagated by Ramakrishna, who frequently "went into Samadhi", all the while traveling (according to his own account) in some higher dimension while his body seemed like a corpse. Later out- of-body explorers duplicated Ramakrishna's behavior but after further development declared that such disasociative states were more symptomatic of a lack of Spirituality than true integration.
In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:46 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > go into it at will and often chose the duration. This makes it > > > > > easier to measure. Being "insensible" to surroundings is easy to > > > > > measure. While the subject is in samadhi, you plunge the arm > > into > > > > > ice cold water and look for a response to physiological > > > > > measurements. Testing the startle reflex is another relatively > > > > > simple test. > > > > > > > > That's a test for your (and Das and Gastaut's) > > > > definition of samadhi. > > > > > > > > And it isn't even an EEG test. Ooops! > > > > > > Actually their research was the first to discover the direct > > > correlation between samadhi and high-amplitude gamma waves... > > > > Between their definition of samadhi (they refer > > to it as a state of "mental concentration") and > > gamma waves, you mean. > > > > Vaj, you've made some high-sounding claims that > > you haven't even begun to document. > > > But Judy, give him some slack. This is clearly the FIRST such lapse. :) >
