Where and when, in this thread, did someone decide this set of physiological
symptoms was an instance of samadhi? We still occasionally read about Indian
fakir types burying themselves for a few days. Since when did a cataleptic
trance become samadhi? Samadhi in the Yogasutras and Bhavanakrama is a noetic
state with physical correlates. Deep trance occurs across the world in
different cultures and is nothing much in itself.
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hyperbolicgeometry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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But why in the world would "one" want to be internalized in a
disasociative state oblivous to the outside world? The idea that
such a state of Samadhi is somehow an advanced symptom of
Spirituality was propagated by Ramakrishna, who frequently "went into
Samadhi", all the while traveling (according to his own account) in
some higher dimension while his body seemed like a corpse. Later out-
of-body explorers duplicated Ramakrishna's behavior but after further
development declared that such disasociative states were more
symptomatic of a lack of Spirituality than true integration.
In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > >
> > > > > go into it at will and often chose the duration. This makes
it
> > > > > easier to measure. Being "insensible" to surroundings is
easy to
> > > > > measure. While the subject is in samadhi, you plunge the
arm
> > into
> > > > > ice cold water and look for a response to physiological
> > > > > measurements. Testing the startle reflex is another
relatively
> > > > > simple test.
> > > >
> > > > That's a test for your (and Das and Gastaut's)
> > > > definition of samadhi.
> > > >
> > > > And it isn't even an EEG test. Ooops!
> > >
> > > Actually their research was the first to discover the direct
> > > correlation between samadhi and high-amplitude gamma waves...
> >
> > Between their definition of samadhi (they refer
> > to it as a state of "mental concentration") and
> > gamma waves, you mean.
> >
> > Vaj, you've made some high-sounding claims that
> > you haven't even begun to document.
>
>
> But Judy, give him some slack. This is clearly the FIRST such
lapse. :)
>
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