--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Give it up, guys. I know you mean well, but what > > you're doing is trying to explain the concept of > > gourmet food to someone who has been eating horse- > > meat tacos and frijoles so long that he has come > > to believe they *are* gourmet food. > > And here I thought he ate prairie dog tacos! Richard makes a > great punching bag some days but you're probably right you > can't knock any sense into him.
I'm not talking about Richard per se. I'm talking about the impossibility of the task of trying to convey what you're talking about to someone who has never experienced it. > Most of everything in the meditation method of TM can > be found in a book or two published by Swami Sivananda in > the 1930s and that is just one example. The reason so many > teachers give shaktipat as part of the meditation > instruction is so the student can instantly transcend > and it sets up the mind for transcending with practicing > the mantra. I can completely understand what you're talking about, because I've been there, done that. I've been in rooms where the teacher just zapped everyone into samadhi and then got up and left, and it was over an hour before anyone in the room could open their eyes and figure out that he *had* left. :-) But how do you explain that to someone who has never experienced it, and who, *in addition to* never having experienced it, has been indoctrin- ated for decades that the little they *are* experiencing is "the highest path," and that all other spiritual paths are lesser than their own? It just doesn't compute for them. To even be able to *hear* what you're saying they'd have to get over their indoctrination enough to admit to themselves the possibility that what you're saying *might* be true. And let's face it...after thirty+ *years* of that indoc- trination, that just ain't gonna happen.
