--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Give it up, guys. I know you mean well, but what > > > you're doing is trying to explain the concept of > > > gourmet food to someone who has been eating horse- > > > meat tacos and frijoles so long that he has come > > > to believe they *are* gourmet food. > > > > And here I thought he ate prairie dog tacos! Richard makes a > > great punching bag some days but you're probably right you > > can't knock any sense into him. > > I'm not talking about Richard per se. I'm talking > about the impossibility of the task of trying to > convey what you're talking about to someone who > has never experienced it. > > > Most of everything in the meditation method of TM can > > be found in a book or two published by Swami Sivananda in > > the 1930s and that is just one example. The reason so many > > teachers give shaktipat as part of the meditation > > instruction is so the student can instantly transcend > > and it sets up the mind for transcending with practicing > > the mantra. > > I can completely understand what you're talking > about, because I've been there, done that. I've > been in rooms where the teacher just zapped > everyone into samadhi and then got up and left, > and it was over an hour before anyone in the > room could open their eyes and figure out that > he *had* left. :-) > > But how do you explain that to someone who has > never experienced it, and who, *in addition to* > never having experienced it, has been indoctrin- > ated for decades that the little they *are* > experiencing is "the highest path," and that > all other spiritual paths are lesser than their > own? It just doesn't compute for them. To even > be able to *hear* what you're saying they'd > have to get over their indoctrination enough > to admit to themselves the possibility that > what you're saying *might* be true. And let's > face it...after thirty+ *years* of that indoc- > trination, that just ain't gonna happen.
It's probably just as difficult for those who are convinced being "zapped" into samadhi by a teacher (especially if they then get "locked into their asana" and have to be put in a "special room" for days) is the spiritual cat's meow to admit to themselves the possibility that this may not actually be the most advantangeous approach to enlightenment.
